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02:33:13 0	Speaker 1 00:01 Sound rolling camera rolling? Take a one Sally M. let me ask you so what effect is this life had on your life? Disco Sally Want to tell you I love it's I don't know what effect it's had on me either know, the disco 92 Or else we put on. I've learned rock and roll now like David Bowie, right? he taught me all about David Bowie. Which by the way I did not care too much about except I know who was that Graham said we heard? At Lincoln Center was very good. He wrote the music and the the words, and it was a damn good thing. It was very quiet. He played the piano. And he sang the song all about Mr. Freud believe it or not, I didn't know who this fella was, but he impressed me. But otherwise the sound was too loud. I used to stuff my ears with cotton. But but he took himself very seriously in his spare time he wrote. I mean, wrote. So what did he write trying to write lyrics? He's still writing them working very hard. But he's a very sensitive guy. And for some reason doesn't talk to me anymore. He thought I did something, I don't know if I don't know whatever it was. In any event Speaker 2 01:30. Interviewer and in the mornings, what time do you get up? Speaker 1 01:33 Disco Sally Well, sometimes never go to bed. But most of the times if we get to bed, let's say at seven. I get up at nine. Because I've got things to do. Speaker 01:44. Interviewer what do you do with your daytime life? Speaker 3: shopping I can kill her
02:35:03 109.62	Speaker 1 01:48 Disco Sally now there's a place I buy crapparoo. I never go to department stores. I don't like them. What I like little peculiar shops. There's a Place on First Avenue and 51st Street. That's for the benefit of stray cats and dogs. And it's a charitable thing. And the girls they're very nice. They volunteer their services. One of them was was a model for Valentino for about 10 years. beautiful blonde. She was married to some guy I meet around here. They're still married who professes to be an actor big tall Husky guy Speaker 3 02:35 anyways but when i that chap you know but the guy who wants to meet Sally they're gone at the same shop every morning. And they meet each other for 10 minutes
02:35:58 164.44	Speaker 1 02:43. Disco Sally rigt but I met very nice guys there. For example, Edwin Newman. And i bought a raincoat of his which Gianni now wears. 02:52 Speaker 3 Boyfriend i love it i told him i says I love it Speaker 1 02:56 ...and and by the way he had a heart thing with things you know valves not transplants .Whatever? Don't put don't know. Dont' do what ? does, he kicks me under the table (Interviewer: Get to the point.) Anyway, he says it's the best exercise 03:17 like he says the heart is better five years ahead. Interviewer You feel as healthy and young now as you did a few years back? Speaker 1 03:25 Disco Sally So now they say well, we you know, maybe it isn't so bad. I'll tell you the truth. Getting old is not good. It can't be good. Because look at yourself. You get wrinkled, you get you freak out. However, he was about 100. stolen? Take Sally Take two. Take two. Speaker 2 03:57 So you see somebody changes in your life. What do you think of the times we live in? Speaker 1 04:04 A tell you most of the time if I think about it, I try not to add things that sound quite as nice as they used to be. Children are not brought up the way they used to be brought up. Not talking about buses in a bus. Yesterday in a bus was a young fellow sitting it couldn't have been more than 18. And he sat there I am standing and i didn't want to sit down. I wanted to make a point. So I say to him , don't you think you ought to get up and give an old woman a seat? He says, okay. He gets off grouchy you know. Now you know years ago a kid of 1or even a fellow of 30 would get up and give you see. Absolutely. One day an old man says to a young man sitting, don't you think you ought to get get up and give this little old lady a seat. She's twice as old as you are. So the guy says, well, all right. So I say to him and by the way, how old are you? And he says 38. I said, you see that old man was absolutely right. I'm twice as old as you. And this guy doesn't mind sitting then you know,I don't get it. I get up to give somebody a seat. They will see an old person
02:38:46 332.95	Speaker 3 05:32 But Sally you like, you say that it's time is better than all the times you live before. Speaker 1 05:36 Disco Sally That's beside, he says the times in which we live. Not 05:40 Speaker 3 The times in which we liive they're fine. 05:43 Disco Sally No, that is not the Question Speaker 2 05:44 Interviewer All the sexual body movements going on on the dance floor. Does that ever sexually arouse you? Or do you think it arouses Speaker 1 05:51 Disco Sally No and I'll tell you why. It's like choreography. It's a dance. Say it for what. it to me you. You've seen these nude girls like, what's her name upstairs, walks around with nothing on but a G string or not even that. I don't even think it's sexy. I think you know um, what's his Speaker 2 06:13 Interviewer You think it's sexually stimulating to the observer. Speaker 1 06:16 Disco Sally No, I don't think so. No, the music, Yes. But not the body movement. I for get his name that Frenchman wrote a book called Penguin Island, Anatole France. And in it this guy finds himself on an island where there are nothing but penguins and the penguins, this guy's a little on the blind side. And he sees all these nude things. He thinks they're people and they're walking around undressed, and he lectures them, and he preachers and he says it's obscene. They gotta put clothes on. And you know what? A penguin that looked very ugly with nothing on, the minute it put a dress on, it looked sexy. And she became very popular with the male penguins and that is the point. A woman all undressed. The male body is better. I mean, in my opinion, in my opinion. But the female penguiom without clothes on is not, in my opinion very sexy. Once you put someone in clothes, even if it's a shirt like that, now that girl look sexy to me. She's wearing a shirt.
02:40:55 462.06	Speaker 2 07:40 Interviewer Sally. Why do you think it's New York nightlife has more freedom to express oneself than anywhere else in the world? Speaker 1 07:49 Disco Sally New York is a really a cosmopolitan place. everybody is in New York. You go to these other and even big cities like Boston. Well Boston is a big city. Or you go to Philadelphia is a big city.. Yeah, but New York City for some reason or other, I can't figure out why it is Speaker 2 08:17 Interviewer Do you think there's more freedom to express oneself sexually in New York? Speaker 1 08:20 Disco Sally in in any form. Yes. In my opinion Speaker 3 08:26 It's not just New York. I mean, God there's no after hours clubs in New York , in San Francisco after four. No New York we go down.Discos in Fire island practically you know the tapes from Ice Palace 10 years ago. And look what they have to give to the world the most beautiful music the most astonishing cultural development its amazing, 08:46 Interviewer Do you live anywhere else beside New York? Speaker 3 08:49 No, no, I come for, I lived in Athens. I lived in Rome. I lived everywhere. I couldn't find any place I couldn't stay so long. I've been here for six years, That's the longest I've been anywhere 08:59 Disco Sally except in Greece. Speaker 3 09:01 That I had to go in between. But it's fascinating. To find the right and it's very safe. I never had the means to dig in New York.
02:42:25 551.98	Speaker 1 09:11. Disco Sally I met a guy on the bus the other day used to meet at Studio (54). A very nice fellow. And he's still going to school and he showed me a picture of the girl he is to marry, a girl from Sweden. He met her at 54 Beautiful girl. Speaker 2 09:25 Interviewer Have you ever seen somebody dancing on the dance floor with an animal, such as a snake? 09:31 Disco Sally No, that was a nice ? we once met. And the horses i love them and the goat that really went crazy 09:48 Speaker 3 No goats. Disco Sally, No goats Speaker 1 09:54 Disco Sally well, I knew a woman in a book and she was a preterist and she had all her sex with a goat. Speaker 3 10:10 No, a peterist is one who loves a child with a nine year old loves children and I'm glad that us no animals is so dumb is not a pet risk is a child a child abuser? Speaker 2 10:36. Interviewer it's sort of a serious question, there's n enormous amount of seeking and searching going on in the disco nightlife. Any ideas of why people go out to give and spend endless nights out?
02:44:13 660.41	Speaker 1 11:02 Disco Sally Yes I do. I think for one thing they love to talk because of my opinion most of them are exhibitionists.Than another thing what they want to do but a lot of them we know have already found themselves. They're in the theater where they want to be. Their decorators what they want to do, they're designers and they're very good designers, they're ship owners. Speaker 2 11:27 Interviewer Well do you think that nightlife fills any needs in people? Speaker 1 11:32 Disco Sally Well, these people a lot of them work during the day. We work during the day so you want to go out 11:43 Speaker 3 release your frustrations Speaker 3 11:47 Disco Sally I think so Speaker 2 11:52 Interviewer Just so we know, you think the nightlife in New York. Do you think the nightlife in New York has set a new trend in fashion in any way? (Sally: Yes). and do you think the fashion industry has picked up any of its trends or directions from the disco world? Speaker 1 12:10 Disco Sally Yes. I think it's had an effect on everything, on the food we eat even. most of them like health foods, you know, they eat health foods and vitamins. Speaker 3 12:24 But you know, it's the whole culture, you know. We've been all over the world and we see like they imitate the village look, or the Uptown look, or studio look you know. and dancing shoes, Capizio shoes, everywhere you know, it's the pierogi look, you know, that sort of thing. Everyone. Speaker 1 12:42 Disco Sally You're dressed very you know conservatively. But I like that pink and gray. I think it's a very good combination. Speaker 3 12:52 But you started it Sally. Yes, it's everywhere. 12:59. Disco Sally In the summer, 13:01 Interviewer It's a good editing spot, You remember that?
02:46:17 783.78	Speaker 1 13:03 Disco Sally Yes. In the summer, man, I remember a time when a man wouldn't go out into the street without wearing a real heavy jacket you know, or it was a light jacket was summer so they'd wear seersucker suits, but always with a tie, you went to business with a tie on. 13:23 Interviewer Let me ask you something. Why do you dress the way you do? Speaker 1 13:25 Disco Sally Well, I dress very comfortably for me. I never in my life wore high heeled shoes, always extreme flats. I never I won't say never until about 25 years ago, I used to wear dresses when I went to work. But in the last even longer ago than that I'd say even 40 years 13:48 Speaker 3 Judy says you never wore a dress Speaker 1 13:49 Disco sally never, always wore pants always. I found them comfortable in the winter they're warmer right? Take 5 Speaker 3 14:13 (Garbled) Because we went through everybody as part of the . We live together you never know. We might sue each other. one sided. you have all of them on one things to do all of them around the morons. All of them. 14:33 We visit them though.
02:47:47 873.84	Disco Sally Yes We visit them.. And they visit us and we have dinner together. But otherwise I've asked them to come you know the disco. They don't want to. So I have a lot of young friends Interviewer Where do you two see your careers going together in the future. Disco Sally and Speaker 3 Yeah. They have books coming out. Book is coming out. Interviewer What type of book? Speaker 1 Disco Sally Mostly it's an autobiography, It'll be a very little of the beginning, you know, mostly concerned with the now. And what interests me, like politics interests me. Bad politics rotten politicians. 15:23 Interviewer Well, that's a subject we really don't want to talk about. Speaker 1 15:27 Disco Sally Yeah let's not, Exactly that and reiligion will lead you to leave out. But and it's a very, got a very nice sound to it. It;s jazz and rock and disco. Speaker 3 15:38 No, they haven't tried anything like that yet. But it's quite original, Speaker 1 15:42 Disco Sally at least I think so we let some of the DJs listen to it and they liked it. you know redheaded Frank. And little Johnny from diversity 15:51 Speaker 3 The dj guys loved it Speaker 1 15:55 Disco Sally How was my. So my husband and I moved to the country. And we bought a house about 35 miles north of the city. And so instead of practicing law, practiced golf. I was a very good golfer. I was a natural So I played golf every day and I swam and you know what you do, you play bridge.
02:49:32 979.21	Speaker 2 16:19 Interviewer So now you've taken up new sports like disco dancing. Do you have any grandchildren? Speaker 1 16:26 Disco Sally I have no children. I mean, I think that's the first set. Children come first, since I never had any can't have any grandchildren. Interviewer: But before you discovered disco, what did you do? How long ago was it when you discovered this? Disco Sally Well, we've been I've been doing this for about two years before that. Interviewer What did you do at night? Disco Sally at night what I did have a list by the way and all night. I was an enamalist by the way. All night i would enamel because I never slept. And so I have a kiln at home and I make very nice things. I used to sell them and a shop on Lexington Avenue and the oldest craftsmen or something and and then I taught little disturbed children how to enamel. And also there's an open on the school on Hudson Street and I taught it's a city owned school you know and all those little kids are enamelling Speaker 2 . Interviewer do you feel the changes in your lifestyle now are better for you? Speaker 1 Disco Sally Well at this well yeah, because I love this This is so now i don't do much enamelling.