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00:00:44 44.28	Speaker 1 Plastic Surgeon, Dr James Carraway unseen at this point 00:02 attention to that particular part of their face and you do see it, but I don't think you dwell on it. I don't think of it as a plastic surgeon would think of it in terms of reconstruction, I see it, I note the defect and I pass on. And that's part of that person's face. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host Unseen 00:17 How long have eyelids or blepharoplasty, I think as you all call, how long have they been fairly common? Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway fairly common. Speaker 2 still unseen Talk Show Host 00:25 And I say that because you know, women are, and men, too, I'm learning are really, you know, it's not as uncommon as it used to be.
00:00:44 44.63	Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway 00:32 Well, over about the past 20 years, the number of plastic surgeons really has increased to the point that there is an availability of plastic surgery to many people. Before that well, not too many years before that plastic surgeons were still doing war casualties, reconstructive work, and they just was not that much time that they had available, nor that many plastic surgeons who were trained to do this work. And the work that was done was probably inadequate, not very good. And in addition to that, our economy was such that the average person couldn't afford plastic surgery. Now, for example, a housewife may decide that she wants a blepharoplasty or an eye lift, rather than getting a new car. And the economy has lent itself to this. Whereas 20 or 30 years before, it was not possible to Speaker 2 Talk Show Host01:28 How do you know when you need an eyelift? I knew when I needed one, because the skin was hanging down and the bags were getting, you know, deeper and deeper
00:01:37 97.8	Speaker 1 Dr. James Carraway 01:37 When you look in the mirror, every time you pass by and you can see an obvious defect that sets you apart, you think, from other people. And it's at that and you decide you want to do something about it. Now for all the people who have defects, aging, herniated bulging fat pads, or bags under their eyes. For all the people who have these defects, only a small percentage of these will be aggressive enough to seek plastic surgery. They're either afraid of surgery, they don't want to give up the money that they're going to use doing something else, or for many reasons, but only a small percentage of people seek this a lot of people would say yes, I'd love to have it. But they won't go after it. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host 02:19 Well, part of the reasons we don't know what's going to happen. It's true. You know, you just, you don't want to be all scarred up. I mean, you know, you're hanging and sagging, but you don't want to be scarred up. And it's it's kind of a fear of the unknown. I think Betty Ford when she had her, her facelift helped a lot and Phyllis Diller and a lot of people that, you know, in the news now enter in admitting at least that they've had it done. But I think we're afraid.
00:02:45 165.88	Speaker 1 02:45 There is a fear of the unknown. And there's also reluctance for people to put themselves through a surgical operation. When it's not an absolute necessity Speaker 2 02:55 to get your eyelids done. Do you have to go into the hospital and the hospital patient or is most times is it done as an outpatient. Speaker 1 03:02 No assuming that you have no medical problems of any sort, that preclude this you can have it done as an outpatient and then simply go home and rest for the day or two afterwards and convalesce there just as well as you can in the hospital
00:03:18 198.38	Speaker 2 Talk Show Host 03:17 Do you have to have anesthesia and be completely knocked out? Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway 03:21 This is variable. There are a lot of things that you can do under local anesthesia. And it depends on how squeamish the particular patient is. You can do most anything with local anesthesia and some sedation of an analgesic and a narco narcotic type of drug. And it makes the injection of the local anesthesia fairly smooth and easy. But there are some people who couldn't stand the idea of being awake while this was being done. Speaker 2 Talk show host 03:49 I don't think I could. I have never talked about the fact that I had surgery when I came back after having had facial surgery. And somebody asked me about who was wearing a new kind of makeup. And I hadn't even decided till right now that I wanted to talk about it, but I thought there'd be a lot of pain. But you know, I never had any.
00:04:09 249.78	Speaker 1 Dr. James Carraway 04:09 There's discomfort. You know, you know better than I do because you've had it and I haven't yet had mine. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host 04:16 Would you as a man, would you have your eyes done? Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway Yeah of course. Whenever I feel that I'm ready for it, sure. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host 04:21 Do will most men, I mean, the ones who come in to you, for instance? Do they want to be quiet and very secretive about if they have their eyes done? Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway 04:31 No, not really. I think most people that come in by the time they have made the decision to come to your office they are not really afraid of anyone knowing it. They may be a little bit a little bit hesitant preoperatively and then postoperatively they love for people to know what they like to talk about it. They enjoy the experience and they enjoy discussing it and they enjoy feeling better. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host 04:54 Alright, another question how do you know how to choose a plastic surgeon? What I mean where do you go and what are you do?
00:05:01 301.68	Speaker 1 05:00. Dr. James Carraway I think that the best thing to do is to ask your own doctor who a good plastic surgeon might be? If you don't have your own doctor, then you ought to ask the County Medical Society. And then when they give you a selection of several names, you ought to call that that physician and discuss with his nurse, you don't have to ask the physician himself this, but you can ask the nurse, what are his credentials? Is he certified as a plastic surgeon has he had experience? I think these are all important. Speaker 2 05:31 Talk Show Host They've been several articles in women's magazines. lately. Apparently, there are some people who are not as qualified or certified as others. And it was either a Woman's Day or I forget the magazine now, but I did a pretty heavy, extensive article on choosing the right person to do surgery. Speaker 1 05:48 Dr. Carraway Well, you probably know that in order to get an ad in the Yellow Pages of the phone directory as say, as a plastic surgeon or anything else there, you don't have to pass any qualifying test. Anybody can advertise as a plastic surgeon. And unfortunately, some people do take advantage of this. And they set up, quote, clinics, plastic surgery clinics, and they put articles in the newspaper. This is much more rampant in in Florida, New York, Miami, but they advertise, get this for this amount of money and so forth, and you're getting bargain rates. But you also may be gettin, in some instances, in a lot of instances, from what we've seen, you're getting bad surgery.
00:06:29 389.01	Speaker 2 06:29 Talk Show Host I think that's a fair too that you don't, if you if you're going to have it done, you want to have it done by the best person. And there are a lot of good qualified certified plastic surgeons. Speaker 1 06:39 Dr. Carraway Yes, let me do emphasize one thing. And that is plastic surgery is as much a technique as it is a specialty. People who are plastic surgeons do plastic surgery, but there are other people who do plastic surgery in some areas, oh, Toronto laryngologist are also facial plastic surgeons in some areas, ophthalmologist do eyelid plastic surgery, it is more of a technique than it is a specialty. As plastic surgeons, we, we did have the name sort of first, if you will, and call ourselves plastic surgeons, but other people do plastic surgery. And some do it very well. Speaker 2 07:14 You brought some slides along with you today, I think to kind of lead us through what happens and you know where you make your incisions. And I'm amazed, I just knew that there'd be more scarring. And I've looked at a lot of people now, I think once you've ever had some kind of surgery, you have kind of a kinship with other people. And you can really barely tell. So we want to watch some of the techniques you use. And I think you brought slides of people what the difference can be. Let's look at those.
00:07:37 457.7	Speaker 1 07:39 In this first set of slides you see a patient the actual photograph on the right there's some the photograph is a little washed out and she's arching her eyebrows a little bit but you see some fat pads in the upper part of the eyelid you see some bulging in the lower lids and she's got loose skin around her eyes. On the left hand side of the screen you see the area marked out for the excision or removal of skin, you'll notice that that's in the skin lines or in the lines that are created when the eyes open. 08:10 Next Speaker 1 08:14 The next one shows the incision on the left side shows the incision of the left lower lid or correction on a patient so right lower lid and show some of the fat being exposed this bulging or or bags under the eyes is actually fat pushing forward and then you see in the upper the closure for the upper lid blepharoplasty. Next, and here you see some of the actual fat being removed after a large portion of skin has been removed from this patient. Speaker 2 08:48 That incision is so narrow isn't it? And then just. How much skin do you take out just however much you need? Speaker 1 08:55 yes, you take out as much as it takes to get rid of the wrinkled skin and and to give a nice aesthetically pleasing Speaker 2 09:04 Nobody wants it what they used to say pull too tight. I've seen some people almost look Oriental after that, a long time ago right.
00:09:11 551.74	Speaker 1 09:11 This is particularly true of the lower lids, because if you pull too tight you can get into a functional problem you can get exposure of a cornea and some difficulties with that. and there's the lower lid fat pads being shown in this fat will be removed as well and this will get rid of some of the bags. Speaker 2 So you actually take fat out. Speaker 1 Yes. Speker 2 09:31 Huh i guess if you didn't, you just pull the skin and it bulge again. Speaker 1 09:33 Here you see the incision lines. Now this incision of the lower lid is just beneath the lash margin and for about several months after the surgery, the scar may be a little red and you'd have to use some eyeliner or something to cover that. And the upper lid scar you can see is just in the crease and it's out in the little crow's foot on the outer side so you won't see that scar there will be a scar there. There's always a scar when you heal but it won't be obvious Next. And here you see the patient postoperatively. About three or four months postoperatively. And it gives a fresher look a brighter look this, these are shown pretty closely and they don't give a real good perspective. But you do get you get to remove the bags, you get the access of skin, some of the crow's feet and so forth, are removed, and it gives us an overall better, fresher appearance to the face. Yeah, that showed it. Here's someone who's a little bit more exaggerated than the problem. You see the bags and some deposits of cholesterol around the lower lids. And after his surgery, which would be the next slide. Well, this is still preoperatively. The next slide would show the post operative appearance, he just feels better about himself looks better has a nicer appearance.
00:10:59 659.67	Speaker 2 10:58 Oh don't you know your self image in a case like that, that darkening under the skin? I mean, under the eyes, is that just something that's hereditary, or can you do anything surgically Speaker 1 11:09 You really can't do very much surgically about that. And you can see this picture has a little bit of shadowing in it anyway, it's not a very good photograph, his eyes are not quite that dark underneath. But you get an idea of what what you have there. Next. This is a diagram for a facelift incision. And you can see the line in front of the ear justice at the junction of the hair and the beard. And then a little line runs up onto the temple area runs around the ear behind the ear and then back into the hairline again. Now I've purposely gone about the diagrams on a man to show how you have to fit that in with the beard line of a man. But basically to do a facelift, you make incisions in front of the ear around the ear and behind the ear and you literally lift all the skin off the face and neck down to about where the crease is the nasal labial crease and down to the midline of the neck. And you lift all the skin and you pull it tight, you trim the excess and then you stitch it in place again. And the trick is to put the incisions in the hair or where they can be covered by hair so that they won't be obvious. Next slide would show some of the techniques you see the incisions being made, the skin has been lifted off the face and the neck and it's pulled up tight and the excess is being trimmed off, the next slide would show more skin being taken off and then the incisions closed. And you can see just in the hairline, front and back of the ear. And the hairline. I
00:12:44 765	Speaker 2 Talk show host never thought about men's beard that would be you really would have to be careful. Speaker 1 12:48 You have to work around that a little bit. Next slide would show a preoperative. you see the looseness of the neck skin and the jowl skin sort of hanging loose there. Next slide, frontal view the same thing. And now the next slide would show the tightness of the skin you see the jowls had been pulled tight. And if we could see a little bit more of the bottom of that slide, you can see the neck line, we may not be able to see that. But the next slide would show the tightness of the face. And this lady's also had a chemical peel, I think that's all Talk Show Host Now what is a chemical peel. And what is that used for? Speaker 1 Plastic Surgeon a chemical peel is really a second degree burn of the skin of the face. And it's done with a chemical called phenol. It's carbonic acid. It's mixed with some other components. And I believe that this formula was really derived from a lady who originally was in Miami, he was doing face peels or chemical peels. But at any rate, it has several other components and it does burn the skin it the skin then heals and when it heals, it tightens the facial skin up. Well you don't do them at the same time because when you lift all the skin off the face and neck and pull it tight, you compromise the blood supply the nourishment to the skin. And if you then add another insult on top of the skin like a chemical burn, which is what we're talking about, you may compromise this and have one of the complications of facelift the possible complications, which is loss of skin or infection. Now, frequently I will do a facelift and do a peel around the mouth area but that's because you haven't lifted that skin up to pull tight. So that's out of the area where your blood supply is compromised.
00:14:43 883.07	Speaker 2 Talk Show Hose 14:45 Would that get rid of all the little lines around the mouth. Speaker 1 Yes it does. Speaker 2 14:48 What about people with who have had bad acne is that the chemical is that what they use on that? Speaker 1 Dr. Jim Carraway A chemical peel can be used and if you think of acne scars or other scars as a corrugated sort of surface, this tends to smooth it out. Now dermabrasion is probably better for that because it cuts the top off the corrugated area, if you will, and smooth it out that way. But you can use a combination of dermabrasion and later a chemical peel. Anything is fair, even a facelift might be indicated because if somebody's skin has a lot of acne pits and you pull the skin tighter, it's not so exaggerated, it doesn't tend to catch the light, it tends to smooth it out. And you can do that in conjunction with the dermabrasion or a peel. Speaker 2 15:31 Charles Masters, the Hollywood ?it man is coming back next Tuesday to be with us on Straight Talk for the benefit of our viewers too, but I remember sitting here and I said you know how do you know when you need a facelift. And he's always recommending this for people. And he suggested that women put a mirror down flat on the table, and then look down into it. And he said if your skin hangs in your skin around your eyes hang, then you're ready. I guess people who deal in makeup and beauty and all never hesitate in recommending it. it's just not as common as it probably will be in years to come. We need to take a break on Straight Talk and we're going to get involved with you on the telephones with questions for Dr. Jim Caraway this morning. 3278121 our number for the program. We're expecting Mrs. Nancy Reagan in the studio shortly and I'll be interviewing her in just a few minutes.
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00:18:52 1132.67	Speaker 2 18:52 Talk Show Host And we're back in the studio. I know we mentioned the fact that you could ask questions of Dr. Jim Caraway then boom, the telephone lines went up. Just a reminder now to keep your the volume of your television sets off in the background when you place your calls to us. It's about a 10 second delay when we're on videotape and it's kind of hard to talk and hear what was said 10 seconds ago. Good morning. You're on the air with Marge may have your question. Speaker 5 19:13. unknown caller I asked Dr. Caraway if he would speak a little about the difficulty of reconstructing a lip s destroyed by burn. Talk Show Host Okay, thank you. Speaker 1 19:24 Dr. Carraway Well, that's indeed a problem. The most common lip injury that we see after a burn is that after an electrical burn where a child has bitten a plug or cord, and generally the area that's involved is around the lateral portion, the side or the CommInsure. Now the comasure? is not just a crease at the side where the red stuff meets the white stuff. It's more intricate than that it has to do with a, a crossing over or decasation of the fibers or fibers of muscle around the lip and so you have to include in your reconstructive techniques, something that takes care of correcting the dynamic problem, the crossing of the muscle fibers as well as the aesthetic problem, the appearance of a crease going down to a point, the red being exactly at the margin and the white meeting it and all these things have to be taken into consideration. It's a difficult problem, but it can be done. Yes, it can be done Caller 1 20:24 Just takes time, I would say
00:20:28 1228.32	Speaker 1 Dr. Carraway sometimes only one surgical procedure. When a child has this injury, we usually let it heal for quite a long time. Although there are some people who believe that other techniques should be used, but we let it heal for quite a long time. Let the scar soften and then we do the reconstructive work and it does better. Talk Show Host Good morning you're on the air. May we have your question. Speaker 6 20:44 Caller 2 Yes. Please ask the doctor if someone who smokes and drink moderately can have this operation. Speaker 2 20:50 Talk Show Host You mean I lift or facelift? Speaker 6 Caller 2 Yes. the facelift , okay thank you Speaker 1 20:55 Dr. Carraway I get to put a plug in for what causes skin to age, sunshine, alcohol, cigarette smoking, and picking your grandparents. All of these things have to do with the rate at which your skin will age. And yes, a person who smokes and drinks can have a facelift or an eye lift blepharoplasty. And they may get a better or as good a result. 21:21 Talk Show Host Okay. Good morning, you're on the air. May we have your question? Speaker 7 21:24 Caller 3 Yes. First of the year, I had cosmetic surgery, and it was unsuccessful with one eye it's only one half open. So I had in second operation, same surgeon and same problem. Now I'm first naturally real upset. What do i do now? Talk Show Host Okay. Thank you. Dr. Carraway, Should she go to another person for a consulatation?
00:21:46 1306.83	Speaker 1 21:46 Well this, to me, represents a consumer problem. And in our society, if a consumer is not happy with either the product or the treatment that they're getting, the first thing to do is to sit down with the person who is furnishing that consumer product, in this case, the physician, and say, Look, you know, here we are, it's been two times, and I really am getting antsy about this. I want it fixed. What must I do now? And then if you don't get satisfaction, seek satisfaction in another way. Another physician. 22:20 Talk Show Host Good morning. You're on the air. I mean, I have your question. Speaker 7 22:23 Caller 4 I'd like to know, whether a Black person have any disposition having a face? Speaker 2 22:30 I'm sorry, I didn't understand. Can a black person have a facelift? Is that what you're? .Oh okay, thank you. I guess because the keloiding and scaring can Black people have? Speaker 1 22:44. Dr. Carraway Yes, some people do get heavy scars after surgery. And sometimes Blacks make get heavier scars, if they're keloid formers. But it's, in my opinion, unusual, in my practice, unusual to have seen a Black person have a facelift. I don't know whether it's because their skin ages better. They don't get as many wrinkles. I think that that's the case. But I have not had occasion to do that. 23:15 Talk Show Host Good morning. You're on the I mean, I have your question. Speaker 7 23:17 Caller 5 Yeah. Would ask Dr. Carroway why when you have these cholesterol bags under your eyes, and really obstructing your view, so to speak, if this would be considered medical or cosmetic and would be covered by insurance? 23:38 Talk Show Host Okay, that's a good question. Thank you, dear. Speaker 1 23:41 Dr. Carraway It's a very good question, both for the upper lids and the lower lids. And if a person indeed has a functional problem, that is obstruction of vision, or if they have these cholesterol tumors xanthelasma, as they're called, that is generally covered by insurance companies as a reconstructive procedure. Speaker 2 24:02 Talk Show Host So yes, should she could the plastic surgeon help her in that case? I mean, she should just go in for consultation. Yes. Most times tell. We need to take a break. We'll be back for more of your phone calls and questions for Dr. Jim Caraway, our plastic surgeon in this morning from Norfolk, Virginia, we're expecting Nancy Reagan into the studios just shortly.
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00:26:41 1601.54	Straight Talk program returns Speaker 2 26:42 Talk Show Host And we are back for your phone calls and questions for Dr. Jim Carraway. Good morning, we're on the air. Can I have your question. Speaker 10 Caller 8. 26:50 Yes ma'am. I would like to ask about this. I have a 12 year old daughter who had the chickenpox back in the spring, real bad scars on her forehead? How do we take care of this problem? Speaker 2 27:00 Okay, thank you. chickenpox can be devastating. Speaker 1 27:04 Dr. Jim Carraway Yes. The Chickenpox Scars are sometimes so deep that to Dermabraize or cut the surface off the skin may take too much normal skin and so we simply excise these as if they were a mole or a wart or anything and close it and the fine line just sort of blends into the general wrinkle lines of the skin. And it gives a much better aesthetic result. Certainly there are scars after this but they're off they're most often so fine that you can't see the scars, works very well. Speaker 2 27:33. Talk Show Host Why are plastic surgeon scars and doing cosmetic surgery and this kind of thing? Why are they so thin? In comparison, if you have your appendix out or something they're always just you know, big uglier type scars.
00:27:44 1664.95	Speaker 1 27:44 Dr. Jim Carraway Every person has characteristic and predictable lines of their skin which are someday prone to be wrinkles. Even in the child of two years of age. If you will take a magnifying glass and look at the direction of the downy hair. That is where the skin lines will be. you make your incisions in the direction of the skin line is least tension and therefore finer scar if you cross these, it'll be wide, wide, wide, and continue to get wide, that's what we do, we just use the lines. 28:14 Talk Show Host Good morning. You're on the air, can we have your question please. Speaker 11 28:16 Caller 9 I have a large abdomen and a double chin and when I lose weight, they remain large and double. And I'm wondering if plastic surgery can eliminate this and how expensive is the surgery and can both be done at the same time? Speaker 2 28:30 Talk Show Host Oh, okay. Those are good questions. What do you call with the tummy tuck is what women referred to ever what's it called abdominal Speaker 1 28:37 Abdominalplasty or if it's a large panniculus, we call it a panniculectomy. Ectomy means to take away, and it depends on the particular patient and their medical history and so on. There has been the time that I have done both at the same time, the face lift and the the abdomen lift or abdomen resectiotn. And there have been times when I've wanted to divide them up. do one at one time and the other one later. The cost
00:29:09 1749.15	Speaker 2 29:08. Talk Show Host Cost has not come up this morning. I figured it would on the phones, it usually does. And you're on the East Coast. And we normally hear that the West Coast and the East Coast is probably more expensive than it might be through the Midwest or the central section of the country. Is that true? Speaker 1 29:22. Dr. Carraway I think that the most expensive areas are California, New York and Florida. And the ranges around the country are variable. And somewhere Speaker 2 29:31. Talk Show Host that would be the range of price now just for the eye lift or the blepharoplasty. Speaker 1 29:35. Dr. Carraway About, on the East Coast, about 1500 to $3,000. 29:39 Talk Show Host What about in this area? Do you have any idea? Speaker 1 29:40 Dr. Carraway Probably on the lower end of the scale. And the higher end of the scale would be New York City and Miami and Speaker 2 29:49. Talk Show Host all right now what about what do you what did you call this? There was a word. W-a-t-t-l-e. Speaker 1 29:56 Dr. Carraway Yes it's just a patolous a loose hanging portion of skin, which is one of the hallmarks of aging, sometimes accentuated by two lines, which are made by the superficial muscles of the neck, the platysma muscles.
00:30:11 1811.1	Speaker 2 30:10 Do you ever do just this part and not nothing else on the face? Speaker 1 30:14 Yes. You can and you can do it by either direct excision if a person has skin which is amenable to this or you can do it by the facelift and pulling. 30:24. Caller 10 One more call. Good morning you're on the air may have your question. Speaker 7 30:27 Yes, I'd like to ask the doctor about reconstructive surgery on the arm from the elbow down from my third degree burns that is very hard to do. And also I'd like to know if the doctor knows anything about pig skin grafting. Speaker 2 30:42. Talk Show Host Pig skin grafting? I've never even heard of it. Okay, thank you. Speaker 1 30:46 Dr. Carraway Reconstructive surgery on the arm as well as other parts of the elbow down yes, may be difficult. For example, if you have a nerve that's exposed as you take the dead eschar dead burned skin off, you may have to graft right on the nerve. So you may have to use some cover over it. There are all sorts of problems that you can get into. Pigskin is a temporary dressing which doesn't take as a skin would do but it's used like a skin graft. Pigs have skin which is most like human skin of any other mammal. And they are cheap to use. You can take a pig and skin him down and get many square feet of thin skin which can be used as a temporary dressing, which helps maintain the homeostasis of the body. Speaker 2 31:34. Talk Show Host And Landers had, I think it's this morning in her column where some man was mad at his wife because her arms were long and flabby. And she used to play golf or is that okay, I read it so early this morning. But I was wondering Can Can excess skin be taken from this part of the arm?
00:31:49 1909.38	31:49 Dr. Carraway Yes, excess skin can be taken from any part of the body. Speaker 2 31:53 Talk Show Host We who is Raquel Welch. Everybody said that she had had you know, her thighs done inside thighs. And is this as common as we might be led to believe? Speaker 1 32:05 I don't know. But I think there's a lot of cosmetic plastic surgery that's done on people who are in the limelight. I don't know to what extent Speaker 2 32:12 Talk Show Host but it would not be a common kind of practice in your office in Norfolk, Virginia. 32:16 Dr. Carraway No, no occasional but not common. Speaker 2 32:19. Talk Show Host We probably just don't know , it may be going on all over the country, which is Speaker 1 32:23 Dr. Carraway calf implants, buttock implants, breast implants, very common. There are a lot of things that are that are seen but they're not all that common.
00:32:31 1951.52	Speaker 2 32:31. Talk Show Host Well, I think our time is up, but I want to invite you, Dr. Caraway, to stay. Nancy Reagan has arrived in our studios this morning. She'll be joining us here on the set. We're also going to talk about Christmas carousel shops later on in the hour. we'll be right back
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00:35:11 2111	NANCY REAGAN 1984 APPEARANCE ON LOCAL MEMPHIS TALK SHOW ON 1984 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN TRAIL
00:35:11 2111.02	Speaker 2 35:11 Talk Show Jost And we're back in the studio. I feel like I've met a friend. Good morning to Nancy Reagan and welcome to Memphis. Thank you. Memphis is very hot politically. Henry Kissinger was here yesterday. You're here. The President is coming this afternoon. Is this? Do you think this is a key city? Is that why you are here Mrs. Reagan? Speaker 17 35:28 Nancy Reagan Well I think every every city is a key city. Every state is a key state. It's a very, I think, a very, very close election. When you're running against an incumbent, you naturally, you're an underdog. And the incumbent can do lots of things that you can't do. Speaker 2 35:43 Talk Show Host You know, I'm sitting here looking at you and you look so fresh and bright. You must be exhausted. 35:48 Nancy Reagan Nancy laughs. You're nice. Especially in front of him. Speaker 2 35:52 Talk Show Host She came in talking about watching Doctor Jim in the background? Is it tough? Do you ever have any time to yourself? Speaker 17 35:59. Nancy Reagan No. No. And it is it's it's tiring. And lasts too long, much too long campaigns. They could be done much faster and with much less money spent. They really do last too long. They wear, not only ,I'm not talking just about the the people running, but they wear the staff out, the press out, the people out, poor people, we never give them a chance to rest from politics. We're always at them on some level or another of politics. You know, they never have a chance to enjoy the World Series. Speaker 2 36:35 Talk Show Host That's true. Where were you during the debate the other night? Were you in Cleveland? Yes. Well, I missed the very first part of the introductions. And then everything was so kind of cut and dried from then on. Did you get nervous and want to help with answers? And Speaker 17 36:52 Talk Show Host Well you get yes, it's nervous. You're nervous? Sure. There were a couple of times. I wanted to go back up on stage after it seemed to me that my husband had answered a question and the same misstatement came forth from the other side.
00:37:18 2238.9	Speaker 2 37:18 talk show host You want to just go up and say no, I bet it's tough to not just, you know, involve yourself and defend and say, No, you got that wrong. Speaker 17 37:26. Nancy Reagan Well, yes. And I usually never have. But but this time, about a week ago, I did. And to the point that I went on a talk show, and they started talking about this. And I, I was upset, and I was, I was offended. And I was very upset about the kind of campaign that Mr. Carter was waging, personal campaign. And the picture that he was trying to paint of my husband, which is an absolutely untrue picture. I don't think that's the way you campaign. Speaker 2 38:03. Talk Show Host I noticed here in town you said something about your husband was not a war monger? Speaker 17 38:07. Nancy Reagan Well, of course not. And that's a that's a terrible thing to say about anybody. He's also he also is not in favor of cutting off anybody's Social Security, which Mr. Carter keeps on saying. If anything, he's for strengthening Social Security. And he never at any time has said anything about cutting off social security, which he said the other night in the debate too face to face to Mr. Carter. And I picked up the paper and Mr. Carter's still going on saying, My husband would cut off Social Security. It's a very, it's a campaign run on on fear, plus deception. And you don't the poor elderly who have enough to worry about how to make ends meet. Now, without having this thrown on top of them. That's a terrible thing to do.
00:38:58 2338	Speaker 2 38:58 Talk Show Host How have you been able to handle criticism? Have you you know, it's tough for anybody just, if anything derogatory is said about you, you know, you immediately start going, well now wait a minute. And I'm just thinking not only you but for anybody who's out in the public eye. How, do you just put a shell around you and not let it get through? Speaker 17 39:17. Nancy Reagan Well, it depends on how tough your skin is, I guess. And I mine is not very tough. So I have a system. I'll pass this on. I take, I get into a bathtub, take a long long bath. And whoever is written or said something about Ronnie that is untrue and unfair and all those things. I have a long conversation with him. And I'm absolutely sensational. All the words that Speaker 2 39:52 Do you speak out loud. Nancy Reagan: Oh, yes. Speaker 2 Talk Show Host Oh that's great Speaker 17 39:56 Nancy Reagan And all the words that you you know, would want to come to you, come to you in just the right way. You're, I'm absolutely marvelous, really marvelous. And of course, nobody can talk back to me. So of course I win.
00:40:09 2409.74	40:13 Talk Show Host have you been doing this all your life? 40:16 Nancy Reagan No, it started in Sacramento. Speaker 2 40:19 Talk Show Host Oh, yeah. Did you have any idea when you married Ronald Reagan that politics would be ahead? How long have y'all been married? 20 40:28 Nancy Reagan going on 29 years. 40:32 Talk Show Host It was just Hollywood and glamour at that time. Speaker 17 40:34. Nancy Reagan Yeah. Although, when I look back on it, if I had been smart, hindsight, is marvelous. You know, if I had been smart, I would have realized that picture making was not fulfilling for Ronnie, not enough for him. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been involved with the presidency of the guild. With MPIC presidency of that, campaigning for whoever was the man of his choice, because he's always been involved politically. Something should have told me that this was not enough for him. It certainly has and it certainly hasn't been, no. Speaker 2 41:16 Talk Show Host you know, being the wife of a politician. I was thinking when he was Governor. It's a full time job for you, too, without a salary. Yes, yes. The President of Harvard College, I think ,his wife wrote a book and said she ought to be on the payroll. 41:30 Nancy Reagan Well, yes, no, I mean, Speaker 2 41:33 Talk Show Host How do you think of yourself in connection with your husband, you're out campaigning, and you're on your own? You know, you're okay on your own. But do you think of yourself maybe as an extension, as you represent him?
00:41:44 2504.97	Speaker 17 41:46 Nancy Reagan I don't know that I've ever really thought in those terms. I I'm out doing something that I believe in, and a man for a man that I believe in, for cause that I believe in. I've never thought whether I was an extension or an appendage, or whatever the going word is. Speaker 2 42:04 Talk Show Host How much influence do you think that you've had on him concerning the era and women's rights and all of that? Is this something you've all discussed a lot? Speaker 17 42:12 Nancy Reagan We discuss everything? I mean, we're constantly talking about politics. We don't talk anything else. Speaker 2 42:17 Talk Show Host You'd be glad to do something else someday, probably. Speaker 17 42:23 I don't think his his his position on on ERA is has ever really been understood. I don't think people know Talk Show Host Well why if you think if it isn't, why do you think it is 42:35 Nancy Reagan Because people keep on saying he's against era, which, which is a GOP platform, which which is a trigger word
00:42:18 2538.36	Speaker 17 42:41 Nancy Reagan which is a trigger word for saying you're against equal rights, which is not true. He is for equal rights. But there are two ways to get there, one by Amendment, one by statute. Now, he believes that the best way to get there is by statute, which is what he did in California. He passed 14 statutes, all dealing directly with the inequities that applied to women; fields of credit, and so on. The amendment has been going now for what almost eight years. Now, it seems to me that if something doesn't go after eight years, why not try another way, which has proven to be successful in California, and in some other states also. And as he said, If he were elected, that he would appoint a committee to show to, to show to make each governor in each state, although I don't think you would have to make them I think they would be very happy to do this, go to the statute route. It's very efficient, and very easy. And very quick. You just zero right in on the 43:55 Talk Show Host I just wish everybody would do it. I think that Speaker 17 43:58 Nancy Reagan Well in in, in one of the magazines, I can't remember which, was either Newsweek or or Time, they listed the states that are doing this, and how successful they've been Speaker 2 44:08 Talk Show Host That is the ideal way. Nancy Reagan: Yes, it is. Talk Show Host How about Maureen, she's been on with us a couple of times. She was here for the Arthritis Association. She seemed like a very independent kind of, you know, career girl and just full of personality. We just loved her. Does she have any thoughts with your daddy on on era or how he's going about it? 44:27. Nancy Reagan Oh, oh we have very independent children. And yes, and they all are completely different. They all have their own goals. They don't always agree with their father, they don't always agree with themselves between themselves.
00:44:47 2687.62	Talk Show Host asks Dr. Carraway (who is sitting beside her), do yours always agree with you? Dr Carraway Almost never . Nancy Reagan That's normal Speaker 2 44:44 talk show host Their very active in the campaign. I think everybody's traveling and
00:44:55 2695.44	Speaker 17 44:54 No, not our two younger children are not traveling. Talk Show Host: Where are they? Nancy Reagan They're in California. No, Talk Show Host All right, I should say I don't know how you know where you are, let alone your children. Nancy Reagan My daughter's in California and my son's in New York. Speaker 2 45:06 Talk Show Host And where is your husband today? Nancy Reagan: I don't know. Talk Show Host Is he in New Orleans?. Do you get to talk to him every day? Nancy Reagan I'll See him tonight? Talk Show Host Oh, that you know, that's what's most important. As we say in television, we need to take a break. We'll be back with Nancy Reagan here on Straight Talk in just a moment
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00:46:20 2780.07	Straight Talk returns Speaker 2 46:20 Talk Show Host And we're back in the studio with Nancy Reagan, who's a visitor in our city and spent the evening here. I trust you had a good time. And you've been meeting with lots of Republicans this morning. I didn't know she had a book. When did you find time to write this? Speaker 17 46:33. Nancy Reagan Well, it was before the campaign, obviously. Yes. Speaker 2 46:37 Do you pour out your heart in it or tell all about Hollywood or all about politicians? 46:43. Nancy Reagan It's a story of my life.
00:46:45 2805.31	Talk Show Host Where did you grow up, Nancy? Speaker 17 46:46 Nancy Reagan where did I grow up? I was born in New York and raised in Chicago. Speaker 2 46:51. Talk Show Host Well, your husband used to be the sports announcer at a station in Des Moines when I was a little girl. Nancy Reagan That's right, that's Reagan. Talk Show Host That's Reagan. People there are very fond and you know, it's funny when anyone comes into the national highlights like he has and everybody's claiming to have known him way back when. Does he hear much from people in Iowa? Speaker 17 47:11 Nancy Reagan Oh, yes. And whenever we're in a large crowd and somebody yells out Hi, Dutch, we always know that they're from Iowa. Speaker 2 47:18 Talk Show Host Does he participate in athletics in any way now? I know that was the sports announcer. Speaker 17 47:22. Nancy Reagan Oh yes, he's a very physical exerciser. its is very important to him. He feels better. He likes it. He's a big sports fan.
00:47:33 2853.44	Speaker 2 47:32. Talk Show Host Where was he running this morning? All over Memphis at 6am? Is that what you were doing? Did you have a question that you want to ask? Speaker 1 47:39. Dr. Jim Carraway Yes, I would like to ask you something. I would like to preface my remark by saying that over the past year, it seems that federal health administration officials have been really very antagonistic to the practicing physician and trying to develop a system without their help. I would like to know if you think Mr. Reagan would be inclined to ask for the help of these people in developing a better health care delivery system for our country. And I would like to know that the answer is yes. Speaker 17 48:11. Nancy Reagan I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking? Is he in favor of natural net national health care?
00:48:19 2899.2	Dr. Jim Carraway My question is really would he be inclined to ask for the help from the practicing physician in developing a system, and making the system better rather than just say unilaterally demanding this or that. Speaker 17 48:37. Nancy Reagan I have to tell you that I am a doctor's daughter. My father's a neurosurgeon. He was professor of surgery at Northwestern. So quite obviously, the answer is yes. My father has very strong feelings, my brother's a neurosurgeon in Philadelphia. Speaker 2 48:59 Talk Show Host I've heard so little about your family. I'll be anxious to read your book. We only have about a minute or two left with you. What do you consider now the major issues in these last few days and next Tuesday is the big day.
00:49:09 2949.59	Speaker 17 49:10 Nancy Reagan Uh One of the things that I do not consider a major issue is the personal attacks on my husband. And we'll say that again. What I would like to hear Mr. Carter explained to me and the American people is inflation. Why do we have the inflation that we have? Why do we have the unemployment that we have? Why are we considered by our friends overseas as undependable as we are? Why do we have this weak vacillating foreign policy? Why is it one day it's, it's okay for the Russians to be in Cuba. And the next day it's not okay for the Russians to be in Cuba. You never know where you are. All of these things, I'd like him to explain to me. I've never heard them answered and they were never answered in the debate the other night, he was so anxious to get back to accusing my husband on things and he is not. And I don't like that. Speaker 2 50:08 Talk Show Host Mrs. Reagan, we appreciate you coming to the studio this morning. 25 people I think came with you. You never travel alone these days. Well, yes, I know it's quite an effort to get you into the studio, but we certainly appreciate it. And you come alive as a real person to us. I'll be most anxious to read your book, available in the bookstores here in Memphis. Thanks again for being our guest. (Nancy Reagan:Thank you). We'll be back on Straight Talk in just a moment.
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