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00:00:19 7.05	Speaker 1 Interviewer So basically, so basically what we're hearing is you're going to pick up the feeling of your spontaneity of the answer. Do you think disco is replace romance and sex? Speaker 2 00:21 I think so because every time I go to disco, I just picked the people and some people hold hands. Some people kiss each other and some people dance and it's, it's, it's a way to put it like romance. Speaker1 Interviewer What do you think's really romantic about discos? Speaker 2 00:41 I don't know what it's romance exactly. I just see people and if they seem happy, I think it's a romance. And some people go and have a good time just meet new people and try to get in touch with new people and it looks like it's a romance. Speaker 1 00:56 Do you think that the dancing all the sexual provocativeness of the dancers on the dance floor do you think it's a put on or do you think it's, it's directed for the excitement of one another? Do you think it's real? I mean, are they really trying to turn on one another or do you think it's a show? Speaker 2 01:15 Hamid, Makeup Artist No, it's not a show that people do it for a reason. Interviewer What do you think they do it for?
00:01:33 81.1	Speaker 2 01:22 Just to seduce some other people you know, some people dance to seduce. I think that's why they go out try to find new people and be more happy Speaker 1 Interviewer that's the general attitude good. So people go out to try and stimulate the attraction of one another right? What do you go out for? Speaker 2 01:40 I go out first of all because in my business we should go out all the time just to meet new people see new faces and also to relaxed you. Interviewer what is your business? Speaker 2 Make up artist I work for magazines I do the hand makeup on the girl and I'm always with beautiful people and I like to meet them at night and just have a good time beside working beside working together I just like to dance with them and it's it's we always have a great time Speaker 1 02:06 so you really help create all the beauty that we see in the magazine Speaker 2 02:10 Makeup artist So those girls already beautiful you know just try to make them look a little bit we try to make makeup on just just try to sell the makeup or maybe a shampoo maybe you know anything you can sell but I certainly don't do something to make them look beautiful. Speaker 1 02:26 Interviewer Is there a drastic change from the way they look in the daytime when you're working with them as opposed to the way they look at night? Speaker 2 02:34 Definitely. Speaker 1 In what manner? Speaker 2 well the more they're much more comfortable first of all, because the you know they're doing it for them not doing for magazine for products you know, so it's it's more personality.
00:02:58 166.28	Speaker 1 02:46 Do you think they, (to cameraman: are you tight on Hamid?) Do you think that they dress a little more provocative at night to stimulate some other kinds of interest other than the put on of the style they Speaker 2 03:01 Makeup artist Hamid Some people, the first of all is fashionable, you know you like something and you say Oh, I buy it because I want to go out you know sometimes you buy clothes for the evening because you know you can put them on in the evening and you can dance with them. And some people like to see on this clothes and it's the only way to do it is to go out and dance with it. Speaker 1 03:19 Do you think disco nightlife has created more sex orientated design of fashion? Hamid Somehow Yes, yes, I will. Speaker 1 I mean, do you think designers created a fashionable line in hopes that more women would buy it to be more provocative and more sexual? Speaker 2 03:44 Hamid Yeah, that's why first of all put them in magazines so that people can see them Speaker 1 03:48 well once we get beyond the magazines, do you think women go to stores with the idea in mind to come out and basically expose themselves a little more? Speaker 2 03:56 Hamid Yea. Because they would like to look like those girls within the magazine so if they go out and there's the same girls wear the same clothes they feel much comfortable. Speaker 1 04:04 So it is a turn on to ah Speaker 2 04:07 In a sense, yes. not to everybody you know. I mean clothes is just clothes is doesn't doesn't change your face. Speaker 1 04:14 does the music and lights, does that have any effect on you when you're dancing? Speaker 2 04:18 Hamid Oh yes if it's great music could you know you become a great dancer because it's something you feel 04:24 Interviewer Speaker 1 does it relieve or give you a freedom of expression?
00:04:40 267.78	Speaker 2 Hamid Of course It gives you a freedom of expression. Speaker 1 Interviewer Great. Got that one. All right now we're going right along here. Do you ever, have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 2 Hamid Yeah has lots of times. Interviewer Is it love or is it lust? Speaker 2 Hamid What is love? Exactly. Speaker 1 Interviewer I think I'll ask you that question. Do you think it's love or is it is it just the lustful romance? Speaker 2 Hamid I think it's love in a way because if you relate to somebody and if you give him a good thank you, you know you can give to somebody until they you know, out of disco because when you go home with a person, it is love because you like to share something with a person, something you feel and it's an aware love. Speaker 1 05:15 Interviewer Do you think discos created an atmosphere that brings a lot a multitude of people together so that they can experience that more readily than in the past? Speaker 2 05:23 Yes, that's why we have the music too, we can help people to be more free on stage dancing and to relate more to each other and to try to make friends to each other, you know, try to get attached to each other. That's why people become more free. Speaker 1 When you hear that thumping of the bass beating in the beat of the music does that create any kind of primitive feeling or impulse in you. does it stimulate you in any other fashion, the music? Hamid Of course it does. Speaker 1 05:57 I'm trying to get that, an answer out of you that will sort of relate to Speaker 2 Hamid but it's very personal. I love to dance every time I hear music I just want you know, do the best I just do anything just to express whatever I feel about this boom, you know, and it is something everybody should feel you know and
00:06:31 379.51	Speaker 1 06:19 In what way do you think disco has allowed people the freedom of self expression? Have to remember why it's a six pager? Well, I mean, how has disco allowed your personal life a freedom of expression? Speaker 2 06:46 Hamid You go it's dark, lots of flies, lots of music, you know so you just. what is important is what you do is what you feel is what you think. So you do it your way. If you went up to a person if even if you don't think the person will talk to you, you just go and you don't care if the person doesn't give you an answer you just do it for you. And with this music with this life you just you you release yourself, you feel great, you feel free. And that's the way you should always feel actually. Some people just feel much more secure if they don't have the habit of have somebody always putting them down you know. So if you feel the music, if you look all around you , it's only great people and you feel that you a bad person because you're in a good place Speaker 1 07:35 when you're in a crowd of people and everybody's dancing, and it's hot and sweaty and sticky, does that in any way bring out any animalistic urges and you to be more aggressive with people. Speaker 2 Hamid I think, yes. You feel like you want, its a way to express love Speaker 1 And you think hot, sweaty disco floors Speaker 2 Hamid Well I mean, not dirty. Speaker 1 08:01 Well, not very, but hot. Hamid Hot. Of course, Speaker 1 Interviewer when I know most discotheques and club owners in this period, the late 70s have created 1000s and 1000s of dollars into lighting effects and so forth and I wanted to just get your personal viewpoint of what the lights really do to you? Speaker 2 08:26 It's really important. The lights. Yes. When you get inside a disco, and you look at yourself, because there's mirrors everywhere and people look at you, you do so much before you get there. Because you know, you look great. You want to meet great people. And if the light is terrible, you look terrible. So you really don't want to be there. Speaker 1 08:44 Interviewer So the lighting has an enormous amount of effect. Speaker 2 Hamid Yes. It does. Speaker 1 Interviewer Do you think being in your in the fashion industry that you're in do you think everybody has the same viewpoint that the lights are vitally important? Speaker 2 08:55 I think so if people who watch us sometimes during a shoot in the streets say oh, look, this girl is great because the light is good.
00:09:15 543.51	Speaker 1 09:02 So when a club owner or somebody in a disco is involved in building it, they should take into consideration the effect that lights are gonna have Speaker 2 09:09 definitely. and this so it's good to go inside the place and look, you have different lights and you have beautiful light. It's really important because some people just look at the slides and try to imagine things you know. Speaker 1 Interviewer So it's like a psychedelic trip. Speaker 2 Hamid It is! Not for me but for some people maybe Speaker 1 Interviewer Why do you dress the way you do when you go in a discotheque? Speaker 2 Hamid That's that's the way I love myself Speaker 1 09:37 in what way? Speaker 2 Hamid The way I dress Speaker 1 or I mean there is no reason I mean you try and dress as a self expression or is it? Speaker 2 09:45 No it's it's it's the way I like the fashion. its the way I like to see myself. Speaker 1 09:50 So you're really giving a reflection of yourself to other people. Speaker 2 09:54 Hamid I know what I look good on. And that's why I always try to get what is the best for me. So if I go out, I like to put something I feel great. I don't have to feel uncomfortable in it because I always see the people I like to be with. And if I feel uncomfortable, you know, it's not sort of weird to have a good time. So if you feel good in something, you just do it for yourself. Speaker 1 10:17 Do you dress yourself or dress for other people? Speaker 2 Hamid I dress for myself. Speaker 1 Interviewer You'd never take into effect that somebody else is gonna get turned on by what they see. Speaker 2 Hamid Oh, I hope so. Speaker 1 CUT
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00:11:15 662.93	Speaker 1 Interviewer I mean, what effect has disco nightlife really had on your life? Speaker 2 Hamid I must tell you, a lot. Disco first of all, give me lots of opportunity to become very free, to dress the way I want to dress to be able to go with whoever I want. To love to be loved. And it's beautiful. It's wonderful. I love it. Speaker 1 11:26 Interviewer Is there? Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 2 11:30 Hamid yes, a freedom. Speaker 1 Interviewer What kind of love? Hamid to meet people, to be able to talk to them with no problems. To be able to give or take and just be happy. Speaker 1 Do you give or do you take mostly? Hamid I give Interviewer Don't you enjoy taking? Speaker 2 Hamid Of course I do, because it comes all the time. When you give you take. Interviewer That's for sure. Do you think it's love? Or do you think it's lust Speaker 2 Hamid it's a lust at the same time love it's a lots of things you know you can love your car. You can love your parents. You love your wife, your children you love everybody. Love, it's everywhere. It's everyone everybody. It's also in disco. Speaker 1 Interviewer Do you think the sexual body movements out on the dance floor are put on or you think they're really directed? Speaker 2 12:24 Of course of course it's directed. that's the It's the freedom the love to be this way they have no opportunity to do it somewhere else that's why they're doing it at the disco. And as it is where to be, to love Speaker 1 Interviewer CUT it all is going well. Okay. I mean take four.
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00:12:57 765.07	Speaker 1 Hamid the pulse and the impact and I'll get back to this question. What effect have the lights have on you when you're dancing? Speaker 2 Hamid I love the lights. I tell you one thing a light is beautiful because it remind me my mother, my father didn't have discos and they used to go out to look at the stars. you know, so when you get inside the disco you see all these lights, it's like stars and it's it's wonderful because you go the music it gives you the feeling that you're doing something you know it's right there Speaker 1 13:12 Does any mannerism make you feel like you're a star? Speaker 2 13:15 Of course it does. You feel like you're on stage and all the stars come from everywhere. you go with music it's it's a stimulation. Speaker 1 13:22 So for just one quick moment youre a star, you're on stage. Speaker 2 Hamid Yeah, for every moment. Speaker 1 Okay. Got it. Cut. Camera. (Slate in front of Hamid)...Hamid take five Speaker 2 Hamid lights put me on stage for one quick moment. I feel like I'm a star. Speaker 1 Interviewer Now he said that at the camera. you want them at the camera? That's fine. Just look right at it for one quick moment Speaker 2 Hamid for one quick moment I am a star. Interviewer Cut.
00:14:00 827.53	ALEX & ROBIN, TWO WOMEN INTERVIEWED. LAUGHS, SNORTS. VERY PHYSICAL. LEAVING THE OLD HIPPIE WAYS BEHIND AND MORE INTO THE SENSUAL BODY. TALKS ABOUT THE BIZARRE PEOPLE & THE TRANSVESTITES, DRAG. CROSS DRESSER. FEMALE IMPERSONATOR
00:14:02 830.46	Slate Alex & Robin Take 1
00:14:11 838.61	Speaker 1 Interviewer sitting with disco gals Alex and Robin So okay, let me ask you something, what effect do you think disco has had on the fashionable fashion transfer that better take. What effect do you think disco had on some fashion. Speaker 3 on fashion? Speaker 1 Now that we've covered the whole animosity, let's get on to it. Basically disco nightlife Slate Take 6. Speaker 3 I do think that basically fabric Yeah. So this is the makeup. Interviewer Is it given any self expression to the people who come in? Speaker 3 Sure they come in dressed up? It's great. Speaker 4 Everything's on the floor. By the time you leave the bar Speaker 3 14:42 Well, it depends on who youre going with Speaker 4 14:45 You do spend a lot of time and you just sort of invent things in front of the mirror, I wear this I wear that Speaker 3 14:53 Like I feel good and certain nights you feel good in one thing and the next night not you wouldn't feel good in the same dress. You know what i mean? Speaker 1 Interviewer Well, I I know what you say. Speaker 3 It has to do with the other people that are going to be there. And yes, yeah, no, but you have to feel good inside to be seen outside, you know what I mean? Speaker 1 15:09 So you're really going there to attract some attention? I mean, Speaker 3 15:14 Well, to have some fun and you know well you know i mean you want to look nice Speaker 1 15:18 Obviously you ladies have come out tonight looking this way, you certainly weren't going to get a soda Speaker 4 15:27 No, you do you do dress up? I mean, for yourself. Number one, and then number two for the people around you, the people you're gonna see.
00:15:48 936.33	Speaker 1 15:35 Do you think that disco has created a more provocative, a more sensual approach to fashion than in the past? Speaker 4 15:43 Oh completely. Oh definitely. But its nice to see a man dressed. though that doesn't mean you want to go home with them. But it's nice to see a guy dressed up really in sleek, sleek clothes with his muscles moving and he's dancing around on the you know, it's nice to see his body move. Speaker 1 15:59 Do you think it's sexually stimulating to see on the dance floor to watch dancers? Speaker 4 16:06 A little bit. I mean, I only on that moment. At that moment, you don't. This is sort of temporary. You don't go home and think about it. Speaker 1 16:16 But when you're standing in the audience, and you're looking out and seeing observing a couple or two guys or a group of people dancing, and you start to scan the dance floor do you focus in on any particular thing that's going on? And why? Speaker 3 16:31 Well, because it's interesting for some reason, right? I mean, maybe it's sexy, or maybe it's funny or Speaker 4 16:38 the way they move or, or I don't know, it's a whole bunch of things, but Speaker 3 16:42 you do definitely zero in on certain people. Speaker 1 16:48 So you think this go dancing is sexually stimulating? Speaker 3 16:52 Oh, yeah, yeah. Definitely. With the music, you're all out there. Speaker 4 16:57 You want to do the music? You know, your wet and everybody's with you. You know and we're all together out there dancing and doing what we want to do. Nobody's gonna make fun of us or laugh at us or anything like that.
00:17:25 1032.64	Interviewer Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 4 17:15 Not really. No. Because it's again, it's sort of you know, for two seconds or dancing on the dance floor with somebody you might think Speaker 1 Interviewer Well I though you might have an opinion about that. B Speaker 4 physically I mean, that's not really the basis of love completely I mean Interviewer In a disco do you think the lights have any effect on the the output of the dances? Speaker 3 17:38 Oh, yeah, the strobe lights and they come on it just it does do something to you. I mean, you see different parts of your body move in different ways I mean, it's not the way your body really moves Speaker 4 17:51 it's exciting. Yeah, it's good I think is really exciting 18:15 Slate Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 3 18:08 Love in a disco? Well, discos have put a lot of love in my life ,a lot of kind of sparkles. And guys you wouldn't notice on the street you Interviewer Let's try it again. Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 3 Have i ever found love in a Disco? No. But it's put a lot of sparks in Interviewer Let's try it again. Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 3 Love in a disco. No, but it has put a lot of sparks my life.
00:18:57 1124.53	Slate: Take 8 Speaker 1 18:38 What effect has disco nightlife had on the fashion industry to you? Speaker 3 18:56 clothes that you wear in a disco are more elaborate, more fun to wear and they end up going into your day life. Speaker 1 19:04 Do you think disco has caused kind of a more exhibitionist flamboyant dressing. How has it affected you? Speaker 4 Well, it's it's like I don't Speaker 1 19:17 So disco in essence has given you a freedom of expression. When you get dressed up Who do you think about when you get dressed? Do you get dressed up for yourself for you to get dressed up for the evening to to be more exciting to the viewers? Speaker 3 19:33 A little bit of all that? Sure. Me everybody out there. I mean, you know, But I mean, you don't go well you don't go like you know. Speaker 1 19:46 In other words, you don't go in your jeans, Interviewer: when you're out there dancing, do you think do you think the clothes that are more revealing are more seductive to the dancer? Or do you think they're more seductive to the viewers? Speaker 3 20:12 Both I mean, when you dance you use your body. it's like body expression of how you really feel. And the clothes have a lot to do with it. You know what I mean? People I guess yeah I guess it is the people watching you too you don't you know. Yes, it's something you don't really want to Speaker 1 20:28 I noticed when disco came out more fashion designers got into a more free flowing, a satin, more brighter colors, more flamboyant. Speaker 3 20:35 more sensuous, more, much more sensuous, you know, because the lighting and everything. I mean, it makes you feel sensuous. There's all this going on and drinking and thump, thump, thump music and beautiful people everywhere. And it makes you want to feel like that. Speaker 4 20:53 Or your body is much more important to you. Your physical self is much more important. The beautiful body the way you're shaped, it's much more important than it was then it has been in the past. Speaker 1 21:05 How does how does it affect your working relationship with being a fashion, high fashion model in the daytime? Does it have any effect on your career by going to nightclubs do you Speaker 3 21:13 I think you see clients you know what I mean . you meet clients on a on a more personal level you dance with them, you have a good time with them, you have a couple of drinks with him, whatever. But I don't think most people are very serious when they go to a disco. 21:29 Speaker 4 No their just totally free to do what you want to do. if you see a client you dont have to suddenly change in the bathroom and putsomething more normal. Interviewer It really doesn't make any difference if you run into clients. Speaker 4 21:41 No that's what's nice about it. You don't have to feel like oh am I going to run into so and so, I'm going to run into so and so. So I better I better put this on and I better look like this or you don't feel that at all and they don't feel that at all either. Interviewer So you really don't take that into consideration when you get ready to go out Speaker 4 21:55 Not at all, no not at all. That's that's disco you know you just all go there. Interviewer so you really don't dress like this in the daytime? Could i find you anywhere in Manhattan in the daytime dressed like this? Speaker 4 No, but you can find quite a few people
00:22:27 1335.32	Speaker 1 22:18 Actually disco has created another entirely different dressing habit of the working woman in the daytime. I mean there you see Speaker 3 22:28 I think it's kind of people that are very body conscious. I don't know which came first being body conscious and health conscious. Or discos kind of gave that whole you know people were off they weren't that hippie stuff anymore when discos came. Do you know what i mean, people got more into being I don't know sensuous and into bodies and dancing and everything got real physical and it is real physical at a disco, the sweat and the dance the poppers and the screaming and the Speaker 1 22:59 when people men or women take their clothes off let's say men when men take their shirt off tear it off and dancing. Is that exciting to you in any way? Speaker 4 23:11 It is a dancer and he has he's really into what you like but big muscles and he's moving and he's hot. And he knows how to use his body. It is exciting if he has a nice body I mean if it's a big fat slob maybe that's a turn on too I don't know Speaker 1 23:30 does it offend you if a woman I mean we have all seen women expose their breasts and so does that offend you in any way Speaker 4 23:37 I don't like that at all no. So that's just my personal I don't think that's uh. If somebody dancing and and you know tits flying up and down up and down, I don't find that attractive I don't think tits going up and down up and down are are attractive. I like them when they're still. They're pretty look out when they're still but not when they're jumbling around. No a man without without his shirt is I prefer to see a man without a shirt than a woman without her shirt Interviewer you're flying.
00:24:29 1456.53	Speaker 3 24:07 Yeah man to flying you can write you really rest in there when you sit down yeah. Interviewer What effect to the bizarre characters and the transvestites and a strange new breed of individual add on your life? Speaker 3 24:29 I think it's great. Well, they like it's exciting. They Interviewer You think it's physically stimulating or relieves any tension or frustration? Speaker 3 24:38 The time passes like it's five in the morning before you know it. Having a bad time. It's a little slow. Speaker 1 Interviewer Do you try and find any particular place to stand because of the lighting effect? What image it will create on you? Speaker 4 24:55 No, not really. People are the most important thing. I mean you try to if you're gonna stand anywhere you want to see as many people as you can and so if the lights are there great. You know if you're sitting generally you don't even have time to sit down and watch the lights or you want to watch the people I think the people are the main thing. Not the lights though. The lights are spectacular, and they bring it all together, but I don't sit down and watch the lights. Less I'm exhausted. 25:27 Cut. Slate Take 10 Slate Take 11 Have you ever found love in a disco? Speaker 3 25:39 Have I ever found love in a disco? Yeah, I found love in a disco. Well, yeah, I have found love and a disco you know? Lights and oh, yeah, I found I found you know what I mean. Interviewer Okay. Is it is it sex or is it lust or is it love? Speaker 3 Oh, it's sex. Lust and love all together
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