2008CELEBRITIES
INTERVIEW WITH DAVE BARTHOLOMEW
PART 2 OF 2
PART 2 OF 2
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DAVE:
WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE TIME. WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE TIME. AND YOU GET THE PEOPLE'S EAR. YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING IN. (???) OH, THEY'RE DANCING TO THAT? OKAY SO RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION. WHAT, RIGHT NOW, THEY GOT THIS NEW, I WAS IN DALLAS WHEN THIS HAPPENED. IN MY APARTMENT IN DALLAS, LIVING IN A REAL NICE GATED PLACE IN DALLAS. I TURN ON THE RADIO AND EVERY NIGHT I LISTEN TO THIS MUSIC AND THEY CALL IT THRASH. I HAVE YET TO DEFINE IN MY MIND ALSO IN MY THINKING ABOUT THE BEAT THAT THEY HAVE. SO I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SELLING IN THRASH. THAT'S THE NEW THING. IT DON'T SOUND GOOD. INTERVIEWER #2: IT SOUND LIKE, ITS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF, ALMOST LIKE, ROCK FUSION. YOU TAKE JAZZ, YOU KNOW FUSION, EVERYBODY DOING THEIR OWN THING. BUT ITS COMING TOGETHER, BUT ITS SYNCH. ITS LIKE ROCK FUSION. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. IT'S A LOT OF NOISE. A LOT OF GUITAR PLAYING. DAVE: WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, OKAY, DEFINE ME MUSIC. DEFINE TO ME IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE DANCEABLE, OR DO YOU HEAR IT, JUST FOR HEAR? I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS NOW. JOE: YOU CAN CALL IT DANCING. BUT IT ISN'T DANCING LIKE YOU REMEMBER. IT'S JUMPING. BUMPING INTO PEOPLE. INTERVIEWER #2: AND THEY THROW PEOPLE ALL AROUND. REAL CRAZY ROCK. KIDS TAKING ECSTASY AND ALL OF THAT. FREAKING OUT. DAVE: I GOT IT. YOU HEAR THAT HERBERT? HERB: WHAT I DISLIKE ABOUT THE MUSIC TODAY, IS THERE'S NO INSTRUMENTS. EVERYTHING IS STRINGS. EVERYTHING IS STRINGS. JOE: IT'S ALL KEYBOARD. DAVE: BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN (???) TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. BUT ME, IF I WAS PLAYING TRUMPET, I WOULD STARVE TO DEATH. RIGHT NOW. (???) I UNDERSTAND NOW. I SEE LITTLE KIDS DOING...BUT THEY DON'T NEED NO TEMPO, THEY'RE JUST HEARING THE CONTENT. BUT THAT THRASH, THEY'RE SELLING IT. JOE: OKAY, LETS GET BACK TO SOME REAL MUSIC NOW. |
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JOE:
TELL ME WHAT COSMO STUDIO, THE FIRST ONE, WHAT WAS IT LIKE? DAVE: COSMO HAD BEEN OPEN BEFORE ME, BEFORE I GOT THERE. I THINK HE WAS DOING CHURCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND EVERYBODY WOULD COME IN TO DO THEIR OWN THING. (???) STUDIO THAT I KNEW OF. WHEN I GOT OUT OF THE ARMY IT WAS OPEN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND QUITE NATURALLY, ME BEING A MUSICIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO TOLD ME ABOUT IT BUT SOMEONE MENTIONED ME COSMO WAS DOING MUSIC AND I HAD JUST GOT OUT OF THE ARMY. SO I SAID I'LL GO AROUND THERE AND CATCH ME A COUPLE OF ARRANGEMENTS. SO WHAT HAPPENED COSMO AND I GOT TO BE FRIENDS. MY FIRST COUPLE OF SESSIONS WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL. ANYBODY WOULD BE COMING IN AND AT THAT TIME, INDEPENDENCE, THE INDEPENDENT RECORD COMPANIES WERE BEING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY AT THAT TIME IS BEING ACTIVE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVE BEFORE. AND I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU. IT WAS A GROUP OF WHITE BOYS, 1 BLACK THAT HAD THESE INDEPENDENT LABELS AND LOS ANGELES SEEMED TO BE WHERE THEY HAD MOST OF THEM. THEY HAD ALADDIN, IMPERIAL THAT I WORKED FOR, AND THE OTHER ONE (???) SPECIALTY. AND THEY WERE INSTRUMENTING WITH HAVING PEOPLE LIKE SHIRLEY AND LEE, (???) ALSO ME, AND FATS DOMINO AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT WAS THE WAY THE WORLD HAD TURNED AT THAT TIME BECAUSE DECCA RECORDS THE NAME, THEY WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING LIKE RHYTHM AND BLUES, THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY WERE DOING BIG BANDS (???) MOVIES TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO I THINK THAT SOMEBODY (???) ONE OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS, CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, WHATEVER, SAY OKAY, TO DEFINE SOMETHING AS RHYTHM AND BLUES OR THE BLUES WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH ACTION FROM THE MEDIA. NOW THAT'S MY GUESS, JUST SAYING IT. THAT JUST OPENED UP. SO YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE STUDIO, SO WHEN THAT OPENED UP, COSMO, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WERE SAYING, WELL OKAY SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS GO TO THE STUDIO AND TRY OUR LUCK. THAT TYPE OF THING. YOU HAD SOME STATIONS THAT WOULD PLAY IT AND MOST POPULAR STATIONS WOULD NOT PLAY IT AND I THINK THAT IS STILL TRUE TODAY. YOU HAVE WHAT IS RHYTHM AND BLUES. |
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on COSMO MATASSA - HIS STUDIO AND EARLY ACTIVITIES WITH INDEPENDENT RECORD LABELS
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******* DAVE DESCRIBES THE EARLY DAYS OF COSMO'S STUDIO..WHAT HE WAS DOING...AND HOE HE STARTED WORKING THERE WHEN HE GOT OUT OF THE ARMY - ..TALKS ABOUT HOW THE MAJORS WERE NOT RECORDING R&B AND HOW THE INDY'S JUMPED ON IT.../
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****MORE ON COSMO'S STUDIO - WHAT IT WAS LIKE - PRIMITIVE ROOM - JUST A ROOM IN THE BACK - CARPET ON WALLS - TAKING OUR LUCK - COSMO WAS THE MAN WHO SET EVERYTHING UP - WE WERE SEARCHING BECAUSE WE DIDNT HAVE THE BOARD..IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS HELL
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*******ON COLLABORATION WITH FATS - WE HAD NO COLLABORATION - WE DID NOTHING TOGETHER I'D GET AN IDEA - HE'D GET AN IDEA AND WE'D DO IT OUR OWN - WE HAD NOTHING ..JUST DID IT IN THE STUDIO...
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DAVE ON HIS PROCESS WITH FATS - I'm In Love Again
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dave on - AIN'T THAT A SHAME - "THAT'S NOTHIN"...IT WAS ONE SENTENCE..I GIVE THAT ALL TO FATS" - NO BRIDGE - NO MIDDLE ( ON BIG BEAT ) I HAD THE WHOLE BAND PLAYING LIKE A BASS ( GOOD DESCRIPTION OF BIG BEAT )
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******MORE ON THE BIG BEAT - ACCENTS - I LIKE ACCENTS ......THE DRUMS..THE HORNS ACCENTS WITH THEIR LICKS.....!!!!! ( GREAT DESCRIPTION OF BIG BEAT !!!
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| 01:10:48 648 |
****DAVE ON - BLUE MONDAY - TELLS STORY "WE ARE IN KANSAS CITY.........."
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****** TELLS GREAT STORY OF NOT GETTING PAID AND BEING STRANDED IN KANSAS CITY...THAT GUY WENT OUT THE DOOR AND HASN'T RETURNED YET IN 40 YEARS.....TALKS ABOUT THE MONDAY MATINEES IN KANSAS CITY..WROTE IT ON THE CAR..
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DAVE ON RECORDING " STANDARDS" -
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DAVE ON - LET THE FOUR WINDS BLOW
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| 01:18:34 1114 |
ON TV APPEARANCES - STEVE ALLEN SHOW / ED SULLIVAN SHOW - ELABORATES ON 1962 ED SULLIVAN SHOW!!!!
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| 01:20:43 1243 |
DAVE ON 1962 EUROPE TOUR
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| 01:21:10 1270 |
***** ( ON 1962 TOUR ) THE PEOPLE IN EUROPE WERE SO CRAZY ABOUT THE BAND WE COULDN'T LEAVE THE BAND STAND....
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****ON "THE SAINT" - WE ALWAYS CLOSED WITHE THE SAINTS..SECOND LINED WITH IT..WE STARTED THAT.....
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*****TALKS ABOUT ON THE ROAD..DOING ONE NIGHTS AND SLEEPING IN THE CAR....
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DAVE TELLS STORY ON EUROPE TOUR WITH LEE ALLEN & HERB!!
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DAVE FINAL STATEMENTS ABOUT FATS AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO MUSIC - A LOT OF PEOPLE BEFORE ME..AN AWFUL LOT...I WAS NO PIONEER..PEOPLE DOIN IT WAY BEFORE ME ....( VERY MODEST )
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**** I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I CAN BE ONE IN THE CROWD..NOT A PIONEER OR NOTHIN 'LIKE THAT..I DID NO MORE THAN OTHERS...
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