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01:00:11 11 |
HERB:
HOLY MOLY. JEEPERS CREEPERS. |
01:01:11 71 |
HERB:
SAY MAN, YOU'RE LOSING YOUR PANTS. HE GOT PICTURES OF THAT. |
01:01:18 78 |
JOE:
YOU GUYS HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN YOU REMEMBER, MAYBE, THE FIRST TIME, EARLY TIMES, YOU GUYS GOT TOGETHER, THE FIRST TIME YOU REMEMBER MEETING EACH OTHER? IS THAT ANYTHING YOU CAN TALK ABOUT? |
01:01:28 88 |
*****FIRST TIME DAVE & HERB GOT TOGETHER
WELL THE FIRST TIME WE MET WAS IN 1945. DAVID JUST GOT OUT OF THE SERVICE AND ALSO I, AND IT WAS ON (??) AND LEWISON AVENUE UPTOWN. NOW WE START TALKING AND WE BECAME TO BE ASSOCIATED TOGETHER DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AND AFTER THAT, IT BECAME LIFETIME LONG FRIENDS, AND AS A FAMILY. AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND TREATED EACH OTHER EQUALLY AND NICE AND ITS BEEN A WONDERFUL FRIENDSHIP THROUGHOUT THE YEARS OF OUR LIFE. |
01:02:06 126 |
DAVE:
THAT IS TRUE. WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER A LONG TIME. AND BLESSED, BECAUSE THIS MAN IS ON ALL OF OUR HIT RECORDS SO YOU KNOW HE IS MY FRIEND. AND ONE THING ABOUT HIM, ALWAYS ON TIME AND DO WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO AND ALSO HELP IN OTHER WAYS, HERB HARDESTY, THE ONE AND ONLY, MY FRIEND, LIFE LONG FRIEND. THANK YOU BRO. |
01:02:37 157 |
HERB:
FOREVER WISH YOU LIVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY AND FRIENDSHIP. |
01:02:44 164 |
JOE:
AMEN. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW HERB IS ON TIME, BEING PROFESSIONAL, NOW IS ANYONE IN THE BAND IN ANY FUNNY STORIES, IS ANYONE IN THE BAND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS RELIABLE? |
01:03:04 184 |
DAVE:
WELL THAT WAS TRUE. WHEN YOU WERE LESS RELIABLE, YOU STAYED AT YOUR HOUSE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO RAISE KIDS TWICE. IF YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER DIDN'T RAISE YOU, I DIDN'T NEED YOU IN THE BAND, BECAUSE ITS ALL BUSINESS WHEN YOU GET IN THE STUDIO. YOU WENT THERE FOR SOMETHING, NOT TO HAVE FUN. YOU'RE IN THE STUDIO TO WORK AND DO WHAT IS TOLD, BECAUSE YOU GET PAID, AND THAT IS ALL WE ASK FOR YOU, JUST DO WHAT WE ASK YOU TO DO. BE ON TIME AND GET PAID. |
01:03:38 218 |
JOE:
NOW YOU GUYS TRAVELED TO EUROPE TOGETHER. OBVIOUSLY YOU WENT TOGETHER THE FIRST TIME. NOW YOU HAVE BEEN THERE OF COURSE SEPARATELY. DO YOU HAVE ANY REMEMBRANCES OF EARLY TIMES GOING TO EUROPE, WHAT THE AUDIENCES MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE IN RELATION TO THE AUDIENCES IN AMERICA AT THE TIME? WAS IT DIFFERENT? HOW DID THEY TREAT YOU? |
01:04:01 241 |
HERB:
WELL, MUSIC IS REWARDING. ITS LOVING AND WHEN WE GIVE TO THE PUBLIC OUR HEART AND OUR SOUL. THE RETURN THAT WE GET FROM THEM IS SO WONDERFUL, THEY LOVE AND LOVE THE MUSIC, THEY ENJOY IT. THEY LOVE MY FRIEND'S ARRANGEMENTS ALL THE ARRANGEMENTS HE MADE WITH FATS DOMINO. HE IS LOVED FOR IT AND ITS REWARDING. ITS A COMEBACK THAT YOU FEEL YOUR HEART IS FULL AND WE'VE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC 100 PERCENT. AND HE HAS GIVEN SO MUCH TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. NOT JUST ONE STATE, NOT TWO STATES, BUT THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. HIS MUSIC AND ARRANGEMENTS THAT HE MADE FOR FATS DOMINO. ITS MAGNIFICENT. |
01:04:59 299 |
JOE:
WERE YOU A LITTLE SURPRISED HOW THE AUDIENCES REACTED? IN 1962, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE USED TO PLAYING ALL AROUND THE UNITED STATES AND NOW HERE YOU ARE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY. HOW DID THEY REACT? |
01:05:14 314 |
HERB:
MUSIC HAS NO SEGREGATION. IT'S LOVED ALL OVER. REGARDLESS WHERE IT IS. THIS MAN IS LOVED ALL OVER THE WORLD. THERE IS NO SEGREGATION IN MUSIC. PEOPLE LOVE IT REGARDLESS. |
01:05:33 333 |
JOE:
BUT WERE YOU SURPRISED HOW WELL YOU WENT OVER IN DIFFERENT COUNTRY? |
01:05:36 336 |
HERB:
NOT SURPRISED, YOU WERE HAPPY |
01:05:40 340 |
DAVE:
VERY VERY HAPPY. I MIGHT ADD THAT MUSIC HAS A WAY OF GETTING PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE BEFORE. THEY WANT TO SEE YOU, THEY HEARD DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT YOU AND THEY WANT TO SEE IF ITS AUTHENTIC. (???) MAKE YOU LAUGH, MAKE YOU SMILE. AND WHEN WE GET OFF AT INTERMISSION AND THE CROWD IS LIKE, "CAN I GET YOUR AUTOGRAPH?" AND YOU TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN BUT YOU GOT 500-600 OUT THERE AND THEY'RE PUSHING EACH OTHER, THINGS LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES THE REACTION IS NOT TOO GOOD. BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THAT. THAT'S HOW THE WORLD IS. TAKE IT DAY BY DAY. |
01:06:17 377 |
JOE:
YOU WERE TELLING A STORY ABOUT HOW HERB LIKES GOOD WINE? |
01:06:20 380 |
DAVE:
OH YEAH, GOOD WINE, OH MAN. THIS MAN LIKES EVERYTHING GOOD. HE DON'T WEAR NO CHEAP CLOTHES, HE DON'T WEAR NOTHING LIKE THAT. HE'S RICH, IN MIND. I KNOW YOU GOT SOMETHING HERE (???). BUT HE LIKES ALL FIRST CLASS THINGS AND HE IS FIRST CLASS. SO MUCH FOR THAT, BUT AS HE MENTIONED, MUSIC CAN GET YOU INTO PLACES THAT YOU'VE NEVER BEEN BEFORE. YOU MADE THEM HAPPY THEN, YOU CAN BE A HUNDRED MILES AWAY TOMORROW, THEY SOMETIMES FOLLOW US FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS BECAUSE WE MADE EVERYBODY HAPPY. AND THE ONE THING ABOUT MUSIC, IF THEY SEE YOU ONE TIME, THEY LOVE YOU, THEY LOVE YOU ALL THE TIME. |
01:07:29 449 |
JOE:
YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH SOME SERIOUS TIME TOGETHER. SOME FUNNY STUFF, SOME THINGS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED... DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR STORY YOU CAN TELL THAT YOU CAN BOTH...YOU WERE BOTH THERE THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHARE? FUNNY? NOT FUNNY? |
01:07:45 465 |
DAVE:
WELL THIS ONE IS NOT FUNNY. WE'RE IN LONDON AND HERB LOVES GOOD WATCHES. I DON'T KNOW IF ITS RIGHT TO MENTION THE NAME OF THE WATCHES FOR A COMMERCIAL OUT THERE. (???) HE CAN NAME IT IF HE WANTS. HE LIKES REAL GOOD THINGS LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE. FIRST CLASS CLOTHES, FIRST CLASS EVERYTHING. BUT WE GO TO THIS PLACE IN LONDON. ITS A JEWELRY PLACE. THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THERE YOU CAN NAME. THE MOST EXCLUSIVE PLACE IN LONDON. I THINK HE MIGHT KNOW THE NAME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM RIGHT NOW. |
01:08:25 505 |
HERB:
I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PLACE BUT THE JEWELRY WAS EXCELLENT. BEAUTIFUL JEWELRY. I TRIED TO GET DAVE TO BUY SOMETHING. A WATCH, ROLEX. "NO, NO, NO, I WANT TO SEE ONE BETTER THAN THAT" YOU FINISH TELLING THE STORY DAVE. |
01:08:48 528 |
DAVE:
THE MAN BOUGHT ABOUT 15 WATCHES OUT THERE. JUST BEAUTIFUL. AND EVERY TIME HE'D COME AND SHOW IT TO US, THE POLICE, ONE POLICE, WE COME BACK, THERE WAS TWO POLICE, WE COME BACK, THREE. HE DON'T LIKE NON OF THAT AND (???) THIS MAN GONNA GET US KILLED. (???) ONE TIME WE GOT THESE BIG COATS, OVERCOATS AND EVERYTHING. (???) THIS THING COSTS ABOUT 15 THOUSAND DOLLARS (???). (???) WHAT'S GOING ON? THIS MAN GONNA GET US KILLED HERE. SO WE FINALLY SAY, NO NO. AND ITS SUPPOSED TO BE (???) FOR ME AND I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING TOO EXPENSIVE LIKE THAT. I'M AFRAID TO WALK THE STREETS WITH IT. SO WHEN WE GET DOWNSTAIRS, WE GET READY TO GO. (???) I'M WALKING WITH A BAG (???) ABOUT 15 POLICE OUT THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. (???) THEY REALLY HAD US. WOULD'VE BEEN IN LONDON RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF HERE. IT'S FUNNY NOW BUT IT WASN'T FUNNY THEN. I SAID "THIS MAN IS CRAZY!" "i DON'T LIKE THAT." "IT'S 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS" (???) "I WANT SOMETHING EXPENSIVE." GONNA GET US KILLED. NO I DON'T WANT NO WATCH, NO ROLEX. I DON'T WANT NOTHING. |
01:10:23 623 |
HERB:
DURING OUR TRAVEL IN EUROPE, HIM AND I ALWAYS VIEWED THE CITIES TOGETHER AND WE WERE IN SWITZERLAND. I SAID "DAVE, LETS GO IN THIS STORE." "WHAT WE GOING IN THERE FOR?" I TOLD HIM "WHERE GONNA SEE SOME GOLD." DAVE: (???) HE TRIED TO GET ME BUY SOME GOLD. I DIDN'T DO THAT THOUGH. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DO THAT THOUGH. |
01:10:45 645 |
HERB:
THEY WERE SELLING GOLD BLOCKS, YOU KNOW. 99.9 PERCENT. I BOUGHT ABOUT 5 OF THEM. I SAID "BUY SOME DAVE." BUT HE WOULDN'T BUY." DAVE: I WOULDN'T BUY ANYTHING THOUGH. SOME IDEAS LIKE THAT, NUH UH. |
01:11:02 662 |
HERB:
BUT WE HAD WONDERFUL TIMES TOGETHER. WE SPENT OUR WHOLE TIME TOGETHER. THE REST OF THE BAND WOULD BE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. DAVE: WE BE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. WE GO SIGHTSEEING, THINGS THEY READ ABOUT. |
01:11:15 675 |
JOE:
DID THEY TREAT YOU WELL IN EUROPE? LIKE ROYALTY? |
01:11:18 678 |
DAVE:
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. HERB: ALL OVER. DAVE: MUSIC, GOOD MUSIC, GOOD PEOPLE. AND WE WERE RESPECTED EVERYWHERE WE WENT. |
01:11:27 687 |
JOE:
THE FILM I HAVE OF YOU GUYS IN FRANCE FROM WHAT I'M TOLD BUY A GUY THAT KNOWS MORE ABOUT YOU GUYS THAN ANYBODY IS RICK COLEMAN IT SEEMS. RICK SAID THAT THAT WAS A JAZZ FESTIVAL AND YOU GUYS WERE NOT REALLY CONSIDERED A JAZZ BAND BACK THEN. HE SAID THAT PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE LIKE WRONG. FATS DOMINO BAND. YOU GUYS WENT OVER SO WELL. YOU WON OVER THE JAZZ CROWD AT THIS FESTIVAL. HOW DID YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TREAT YOU WELL PLAYING AT A JAZZ FESTIVAL? |
01:12:02 722 |
DAVE:
WELL YOU CAN'T GO BY WHAT RICK COLEMAN SAID. RICK, I CAN SEE RICK COMING FROM COVINGTON LOUISIANNA AND THEN GETTING WITH US LATTER YEARS. WE HAD BEEN AROUND AND WE WERE MADE. WE WERE TIRED WHEN RICK CAME (???) FROM COVINGTON (???) THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HE'S NOT, UHH, IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE. AND THE MAN, ABOUT WHAT HE DID, RICK DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT THAT. I HATE TO TELL YOU LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. HE'S NOT AN AUTHORITY ON NOTHING. THATS RIGHT, HE NEVER BEEN OVERSEAS OR NOTHING. HE DIDNT KNOW US UNTIL SOMEONE TOLD HIM THAT. HE NEVER BEEN WITH US. |
01:12:39 759 |
JOE:
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EUROPE NECESSARILY ANYMORE, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES FATS WOULD BRING SOME OF HIS OWN FOOD. HE WOULD PACK STUFF WITH HIM AND ALL THAT. HOW DID YOU GUYS DO ON THE ROAD LIKE FINDING PLACES TO EAT? |
01:12:53 773 |
DAVE:
WE ALL DO THAT. WE STOP SOME PLACES, A SANDWICH SHOP, SOME PLACES LIKE THAT. (???) HE LIKES SOME OF HIS OWN STUFF, PIGS FEET AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT HE LIKED AND HE COULD AFFORD IT AND THAT WAS IT. BUT WHEN WE WENT OVER SEAS, THERE WERE NO STUFF LIKE THAT. ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT EUROPE, EVERY PLACE WE HAVE GONE, WE WERE VERY WELL RESPECTED. YOU GIVE RESPECT YOU GET IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. ON THE BANDSTAND, OFF THE BANDSTAND. 100 PERCENT AND WE WERE TREATED THAT WAY. |
01:13:30 810 |
HERB:
AND THAT WAS PEOPLE OF EVERY NATIONALITY. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS COLOR, AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS 100 PERCENT. AND THEY LOVED FATS DOMINO MUSIC, AND THANKS TO DAVE BARTHOLOMEW WHO PRODUCED IT ALL. AND HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET, WE WERE IN LAS VEGAS NEVADA AT THE FLAMINGO HOTEL, AND I WAS SITTING WITH DAVE AND LEW CHUDD, THE PRESIDENT OF THE RECORD COMPANY. AND HE SAID, "DAVID, YOUR WONDERFUL AND I WANT YOU THERE. YOU ARE 100 PERCENT IN CHARGE." AND DAVE DID A WONDERFUL JOB FROM THAT DAY ON. WE WERE THERE TOGETHER. SITTING IN THE RESTAURANT HAVING BREAKFAST, AND HE SAID "DAVE, YOU TAKE CHARGE OF NEW ORLEANS" AND DAVE PRODUCED, EVERYTHING HE PRODUCED CAME OUT TO BE NUMBER ONE, FROM DIFFERENT ARTISTS. AND HE DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. |
01:14:47 887 |
DAVE:
YOU KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, I WOULD ALWAYS LET THE UNION KNOW I WAS DOING A RECORD SESSION. THE UNION MAN WOULD SIT THERE, YOU GO AHEAD AND DO 3 HOURS, IF IT'S OVER TIME, HE'S THERE. (???) I USED ALL UNION MUSICIANS. IF YOU WEREN'T IN THE UNION, I'D PUT YOU IN THERE. IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, TO DO IT RIGHT. (???) "I DIDN'T GET PAID..." WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. |
01:15:15 915 |
HERB:
AND THANKS TO DAVE, WE GOT A PENSION FUND FROM THAT. DAVE: THAT'S RIGHT! |
01:15:20 920 |
JOE:
NOW YOU GUYS WERE BOTH ON, NOW WE'RE GOING WAY BACK NOW, YOU WERE BOTH ON THE "FAT MAN" SESSION. DO YOU REMEMBER IT SPECIFICALLY, HERB? THE ACTUAL SESSION...? |
01:15:34 934 |
DAVE:
WELL ACTUALLY (???) THERE REALLY WAS NOTHING ACTUALLY TO IT. (???) THAT'S ABC FOR MUSICIANS. (???) THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. IT WAS JUST A SONG, PLAYING IT, WE FELT IT DOWN (???) EVERY DAY STUFF. (???) THE THING YOU MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS IF ITS A BRIDGE AND YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THE BRIDGE. BUT THAT WAS THE SAME (???) OVER AND OVER AGAIN.THAT WAS DONE MANY MANY TIMES LIKE PEOPLE LIKE RED OLIVER OR SOME OF THE PEOPLE, OTHER NAMES THAT IM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT DID THOSE TYPES OF BLUES AND STUFF. (???) VERY GOOD. JUST A NAME TOOTS, THAT TYPE THING, THAT WAS JUST EVERYDAY BLUES THAT MUSICIAN...YOU HEAR THAT EVERYDAY DURING THAT TIME. MUSICIAN AT THAT TIME. NOW THAT WOULD NOT BE BECAUSE ITS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE (???) BLUES. |
01:16:29 989 |
JOE:
WHEN YOU GUYS WERE ON THE ROAD, DID YOU HAVE A WARM UP SINGER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD GO ON BEFORE YOU GUYS? |
01:16:36 996 |
DAVE:
OH YES, SOMETIMES. WE WEREN'T BY OURSELVES, WE WERE DOING BIG SHOWS. FIVE OR SIX ACTS BEFORE. EVERYWHERE WE WENT, WE ALWAYS HAD SOMEBODY...FATS DOMINO IS LIKE BIG, THATS CLOSING OR DOING HALFTIME. WASN'T NO PLAYING ALL NIGHT LONG. THERE WAS NO DAY LIKE THAT. 1 OR 2 HOURS OVER WITH. (???) CLOSING, IT'S FATS DOMINO. SOMETIMES WE MIGHT SAY WE GONNA CLOSE HALFTIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A FLIGHT TO MAKE. THAT'S HOW IT WAS DONE. REAL BUSINESS. |
01:17:11 1031 |
HERB:
THATS RIGHT. THE FIRST TIME DAVE MADE A TOUR WITH FATS DOMINO, WE WENT TO OKLAHOMA CITY, FIRST RECORD HE MADE HAD A SELL OUT. LEFT OKLAHOMA CITY AND WENT TO CALIFORNIA. SELL OUT. DAVE: IN THE STREETS ON CENTRAL AVENUE. EVERYBODY... HERB: WENT TO SAN FRANCISCO. SELL OUT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVER HEARD OF PAUL (???) HE WAS A FAMOUS BLACK MOVIE STAR. WE WERE SITTING IN OKLAHOMA CITY TOGETHER AND I WAS ENTHUSED TO MEET HIM AND HE SAID THAT FATS DOMINO IS GOING TO BE THE BEST. HE WENT TO HEAR FATS. AND HE SAID FATS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST. AND HE SAID THAT TRUMPET PLAYER SAID "WOW, WHAT HE DO WITH THAT WOW WOW THING." HE WAS AMAZED. HE WAS REALLY THRILLED OVER THE MUSIC. AND I WAS ENTRILLED TO HAVE MET HIM. |
01:18:28 1108 |
INTERVIEWER #2:
WAS THERE A DIFFERENT KIND OF CAMARADERIE BECAUSE OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT BANDS ON THE SAME BILL? |
01:18:39 1119 |
DAVE:
DIFFERENT ACTS DID DIFFERENT THINGS. IT WAS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO PLAYED TRADITIONAL MUSIC. SOME PLAYED POP MUSIC, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEY WERE SITTING THERE WAITING FOR FATS DOMINO BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ROCKING. AND WE DREW THE YOUNG CROWDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL. AND SAY "WE ARE GOING TO INVEST IN SOMEONE". IN OTHER WORDS, WE WERE LIKE INTRODUCING RHYTHMS AND BLUES IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN (???) THEY COME OUT THERE CLAPPING THEIR HANDS "THIS IS SOMETHING NEW." WE REALLY WASN'T NEW, WE WERE NEW TO THEM. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS OVER HERE. |
01:19:22 1162 |
HERB:
WHENEVER THIS GENTLEMAN, MY FRIEND, MY LIFETIME FRIEND, WHENEVER HE HIT THAT STAGE, THEY LOVED HIM JUST AS MUCH AS THEY LOVED FATS DOMINO. HE WAS VERY VERY IMPORTANT. AND HE IS STILL VERY VERY IMPORTANT. AND THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD LOVE DAVE BARTHOLOMEW. |
01:19:50 1190 |
JOE:
I'VE SEEN CLIPS OF YOU GUYS, PLAYING TUNES, NOT JUST 3 MINUTES TUNES, STRETCHING OUT A LITTLE BIT. THERES SOME FOOTAGE OF YOU LYING BACK ON THE FLOOR. PLAYING THE PEOPLE... DAVE: WELL YEAH, I WAS YOUNG THEN. JOE: DID HERB USED TO DO SOME FUNNY STUFF LIKE THAT? DAVE: WHAT? LAYING ON THE FLOOR (???)? OH YES INDEED. MAN WE USED TO BE HAPPY, HAVING A GOOD TIME. |
01:20:22 1222 |
HERB:
I WAS WORKING IN A GIG WITH HIM WITH HIS BAND, AND WAS WORKING THE RAWHOUSE? OR THE RHYTHM CLUB AND THEY HAD AN UPSTAIRS. DAVE: UPSTAIRS THEY HAD A BALCONY AND HE WOULD WALK ALLOVER. |
01:20:43 1243 |
JOE:
YOU MAKE A RECORD, AND AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO SELL THE RECORD, YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY BUT THEN TIME PASSES, NOW ITS 50-60 YEARS AND ITS GOING TO GO ON LONGER AND LONGER AFTER YOUR GONE, AFTER I'M GONE. HOW WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THE WORK THAT YOU DID? |
01:21:07 1267 |
DAVE:
I THINK OF IT THIS WAY. LIFE HAS ITS CHALLENGES ALL THE TIME AND IF YOU SITTING THERE WAITING ON WHAT YOU DID 20 YEARS AGO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOST. (???) WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THIS: YOU GOTTA BE ACTING WHAT YOU'RE DOING YOU CAN'T BE SAYING "WELL I DID THIS (???) HAPPEN NO MORE" IT DON'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHATS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IS THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS CHANGING AND IF YOU DON'T CHANGE AS WELL (???) AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS TRUE. BUT YOU CANT SAY "IT DON'T GO LIKE THAT NO MORE." (???) "I WONDER WHY..." START CRYING. YOU BETTER MAKE HERE WHILE THE SUN IS STILL SHINING OTHERWISE YOU'LL BE LEFT BY YOURSELF. AND I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE IM SITTING HERE AND IVE SEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF CHANGES IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. YOU GET SICK, YOU GET WELL YOU DO THIS AND THAT. AND THE SUN IS GOING TO SHINE EVERYDAY. AND WHEN IT RAINS, IT RAINS.(???) I SHOULD'VE BUILT A HOUSE WITH A TOP ON IT. (???) IT DON'T GO LIKE THAT. THAT'S LIFE. (???) YOU GOTTA PREPARE WHILE THE SUN'S STILL SHINING. |
01:22:26 1346 |
HERB:
AND YOU KNOW WHEN WE LIVE, WE SEE THE PEACE AND HAPPINESS AND THE JOY OF THE FANS, PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE MUSIC. BUT ONCE WE PASS AWAY WE DONT KNWO WHATS GOING ON. ITS FINISHED FOR US. BUT LIFE CARRIES ON THROUGH THE MUSIC. IT NEVER DIES. FOREVER IT LIVES...WHEN WE REST IN HEAVEN. THANK GOD FOR THAT. |
01:23:03 1383 |
JOE:
YOU GUYS BACKED UP LOTS OF PEOPLE. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SMILEY LEWIS. |
01:23:09 1389 |
******STORY OF WRITING ONE NIGHT OF SIN COVERED BY ELVIS - SMILEY LEWIS
I CAN TELL YOU AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT SMILEY LEWIS AND HE CAN DO. ONE OF THE MOST ENERGETIC PERSON YOU WILL MEET IN YOUR LIFE. SMILEY, ONE HELL OF A SINGER. WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM IN THE OLD TIME...A GUITAR PLAYER, BY HIMSELF, GOING TO DIFFERENT CLUBS BY HIMSELF SINGING, NO MICROPHONE OR NOTHING. AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED HE USED TO LIVE ON (???) THATS UPTOWN NEW ORLEANS. AND I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, CLOSE TO MY FATHERS BARBERSHOP. WHEN I GOT A CHANCE TO RECORD HIM I SAID "SMILEY, IM IN BUSINESS RIGHT NOW." AND HE SAW ME GROW UP AS A LITTLE KID, HE WAS A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN ME. AND SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT I GAVE SMILEY TO SING MADE HIM, AND HE CAME BACK AND THANKED ME FOR IT. SMILEY LEWIS, ONE NIGHT, OUR ONE NIGHT OF SIN, WE WERE PLAYING THE (???) IN MOBILE ALABAMA. I USED TO GO WITH A GIRL THERE, HIGH SOCIETY, (???) WE WENT TO A PARTY, DOWNTOWN RESTAURANT AND ALL SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE. NOW THIS IS BLACK, BUT HIGH CLASS YOU KNOW. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GOT OFF THE BANDSTAND (???) WE CALL IT THE AFTER PARTY (???) ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. I SAY "IM GOING TO THE AFTER PARTY". I'M THE ONLY ONE GOING THIS TIME, IM NOT LETTING THEM GO. I'M GOING WITH A GIRL AND GETTING ME A BUS AND AIN'T SLEEPING BY MYSELF. I'M GOING TO TELL MY WIFE SOMETHING HAPPENED. WELL I'M GOING TO THIS PARTY AND A LADY, I CAN'T GO NO NAMES, I WAS GOING WITH THE GIRL, FIRST CLASS, SHE WAS SINGLE. SO WHAT HAPPENED, SHE SAID "I NEVER HAD ONE NIGHT OF SIN." I'M TALKING ABOUT DOING WRONG AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW. AND AT THIS PARTY, YOU KNOW, (???) TEACHERS AND EVERYTHING. AND THE ONE I KNEW, IM NOT CALLING NAMES, SHE SAID "I AIN'T NEVER HAD ONE OF THOSE ONE WINE TWO MUCH, I AINT HAD NO ONE NIGHT OF SIN." I SAID "WHAT DID YOU SAY?!" THAT TITLE! I SWEAR, I WROTE IT DOWN, 'ONE NIGHT OF SIN.' I HAD SMILEY COMING UP TWO WEEKS FROM THEN. I SAT DOWN AND PUT THAT THING TOGETHER, TORE IT UP, I FINALLY GOT HALFWAY STRAIGHT. AND I CALLED SMILEY, WANTING TO SEE IF HE WOULD DID IT. AND THEN THE NEXT THING I KNOW, RECORD COMES OUT, AND ELVIS COVERS IT. AND WHAT HAPPENED, ON THERE, A MILLION TIMES, LEW CHUDD WAS HAVING ME SUED. I MEAN, SOMEONE WAS HAVING ME SUED THROUGH LEW CHUDD TO GET THEM IMPERIAL RECORDS TO SAY I DID SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SO I PUT MY WIFE'S NAME, P. KING, MY FIRST WIFE'S NAME WAS PEARL. THE P, AND HER MAIDEN NAME WAS KING. SO YOU SEE MY NAME ON IT WITH P. KING. BUT RIGHT NOW LEW CHUDD GOT PISSED OFF WITH ME AND HE PUT ON THERE ANITA BRYANT. ANITA WAS RUNNING THE PUBLISHING COMPANY FOR LEW CHUDD. AND WHY SHE DID THAT, THE RECORD HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT A YEAR WHEN ELVIS DID IT. SHE GETS A THIRD OF MY MONEY. LEW CHUDD (???) AND WHEN HE WALKED IN HE DIDN'T HAVE SHIT. BARE FEET, NOTHING. AND I MADE HIM A BILLIONAIRE AND THATS WHAT HE DID TO ME. HE CUT ME UP WITH SMILEY LEWIS AND PUT FATS ON A LOT OF MY STUFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. (???) FATS DID IT LATER, BUT SMILEY WAS THE ONE THAT DID IT. BIG BIG SELLERS. |
01:27:35 1655 |
JOE:
SPEAKING OF THAT, KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF THAT, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF PAT BOONE COVERING YOUR TUNE? |
01:27:42 1662 |
DAVE:
WELL EVERYONE AT THAT TIME IN NASHVILLE WERE COVERING DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AT THAT TIME WHEN YOU (???), BUT I MEAN WE ACTUALLY LIKED IT BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW (???) GETTING OUT OF IT, SWAYING US OUT MORE IN THE WHITE WORLD AT THAT TIME. KEEP IN MIND, IT WAS YOUNG, A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDNT BUY US AT ALL BECAUSE WE WERE BLACK AT THAT TIME. THERE WAS SEGREGATION IN MUSIC (???). BUT AFTER THEY HEARD IT FOR A WHILE, IT STARTED TO GROW ON YOU LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. SO I WAS GLAD, WE FINALLY GOT STRAIGHT AND I NEVER MET PAT BOONE. I NEVER MET ANY OF THEM. GALE STORM MADE US A LOT OF MONEY TOO. IT GOES ON AND ON BUT THE MAIN THING ABOUT HIS, UH, (???) BUT AT THAT TIME, THE MAN WAS RUNNING THAT RECORDS I CAN'T REMEMBER. i CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME RIGHT NOW. HE WAS THE ONE THAT DID THE COVERS. |
01:28:38 1718 |
HERB:
BACK TO SMILEY. DAVE'S RECORDING SMILEY LEWIS AT COSMO STUDIO ON 4TH STREET. AND THE SESSION WAS GOING NICE AND SMILEY WAS PLAYING HIS GUITAR AND BOOM! ALL THE STRINGS BLEW UP. HE TOUCHED MICROPHONE WITH HIS GUITAR AND ALL THE STRINGS BLEW UP. DAVE: AND THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT STUFF. (???) THE MAN ALMOST STARTED A FIRE IN THERE. |
01:29:14 1754 |
JOE:
WHERE WAS COSMOS FIRST STUDIO? |
01:29:16 1756 |
DAVE:
STILL THERE. (???) IN RAMPART. LATER ON RIGHT ACROSS FROM (???) PARK. WHERE YOU INTERSECT (???) RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A LITTLE SIGN WHERE YOU GO IN THE BACK AND SEE SOME OF THE THINGS. I THINK THEY TOLD ME SOMEONE STOLE MY PICTURE OUT OF THERE. |
01:29:43 1783 |
HERB:
A FEW YEARS LATER, SMILEY CALLS ME UP. HE SAID "WHERE ARE YOU" I SAID "YOU JUST CALLED ME" AND HE SAID "IM IN THE HOSPITAL, AND YOU HAVEN'T COME TO SEE ME" HE SAY "WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO COME SEE ME?" I SAY "SMILEY, I'LL COME VISIT YOU TOMORROW. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE IN THE HOSPITAL." THAT NIGHT HE DIED. JOE: THAT'S TOO BAD. HERB: AND HE WAS A WONDERFUL PERSON AND DAVE RECORDED SOME NICE SONGS WITH HIM. BIG RECORDS, YOU KNOW. DAVE: "BLUE MONDAY", "ONE NIGHT", JUST TO NAME A FEW. SMILEY LEWIS. |
01:30:24 1824 |
JOE:
DID SMILEY DO "FOUR WINDS BLOW"? DAVE: NO, I DONT THINK SO, NO. I DID THAT. I RECORDED "FOUR WINDS BLOW". FATS DID IT LATER. |
01:30:37 1837 |
JOE:
WHEN YOU GUYS WERE IN THE STUDIO, YOU HAVE A TUNE YOUR GOING TO DO, I KNOW YOU'RE DIRECTING THE BAND AND ALL THAT BUT, YOU DIDNT WRITE EVERYTHING OUT, RIGHT? DIDN'T YOU GUYS WORK OUT PARTS TOGETHER? |
01:30:49 1849 |
DAVE:
NO, THAT'S BULLSHIT, NO. WHEN I WAS IN THE STUDIO, WHEN I GO IN THERE IM WRITING. WHEN I GO INTO THE STUDIO I KNWO WHAT IM DOING. NO, I DONT TRY TO MAKE UP NO SONG. IT WASN'T LIKE THAT. LIKE WE ALL PUT IN IT. NO, NO, THATS BULLSHIT. I DIDNT DO THAT. WHEN I WENT TO THE STUDIO, I HAVE THE CHORDS AND EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND WANT I WANT YOU TO DO (???) I WASN'T NO AMATEUR. THATS WHAT SOME OF THE GUYS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. ME, WHEN I WENT INTO THE STUDIO, I KNEW WHAT I WANTED TO DO. YOU GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT I WAS A MUSICIAN. BIG TIME MUSICIAN BEFORE (???) I STARTED PLAYING THE TRUMPET. I PLAYED WITH THE BEST BANDS IN THE COUNTRY SO I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING. HERB: AND HE DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. DAVE: (???) WHEN I WENT THERE ONE TIME HE WAS RIGHT THERE, THE WHOLE TIME, HE WOULD DO IT. I HAVEN'T SAID THAT. "DAVE RUNNING THIS" AND SO AND SO, NUH UH. (???) MUSICIAN. MAN SUPPOSED TO BE SITTING THERE. MR. JOHNSON. |
01:31:45 1905 |
JOE:
WOULD YOU DESIGNATE WHO WAS GOING TO PLAY SOLOS? |
01:31:47 1907 |
DAVE:
OH YEAH. WHEN I RUN THE BAND, I DEFINITELY GOING TO KNOW WHOSE GOING TO PLAY SOLOS IN MY BAND. WHOSE GOING TO DO IT AND WHO AINT GONNA DO IT. I LIKE LEE ALLEN BECAUSE LEE ALLEN WAS MORE LIKE GUT BUCKET TYPE THING. (???) WHERE YOU CAN JUST SHAKE YOUR BEHIND, THAT KIND OF THING. THAT WAS LEE ALLEN. BUT WHOEVER WAS LIKE ACUTE, SOPHISTICATED SHIT, TE TE TE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN THAT WAS (???). HERB: THAT'S WHY WE'RE LIFETIME FRIENDS. DAVE: IF I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, I GO ON DOWN AND DO IT A GUT BUCKET. YOU KNOW. BUT THE MAIN THING ABOUT IT IS THAT I TRY TO PUT EVERYONE IN A CATEGORY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. AND ALSO, LEE ALLEN IS GUT BUCKET. |
01:32:34 1954 |
JOE:
DAVE, DID YOU MAKE AN EFFORT, DID YOU TELL THE BAND AND YOU GUYS MADE AN EFFORT TO TRY TO KEEP IT AS CLOSE TO THE RECORD AS POSSIBLE? DID YOU WANT THAT SOUND... A LOT OF THE GUYS THEY CHANGE IT AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT GUYS WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. YOU GUYS ALWAYS KEPT THAT SOUND. |
01:32:50 1970 |
DAVE:
(???) YOU CAN KEEP IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT MUSICIANS. (???) THEY KNOW THEY DIDN'T BUT THE OTHER GUY (???) THERE BE LIKE (???) SAXOPHONE PLAYER COMING. NOBODY GONNA TURN HIM AROUND. TELL HIM WHAT TO DO (???). BUT TO SAY WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THIS, YOU GOT A WHOLE BAND, NO WAY, NUH UH. THATS IMPOS... YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THEN YOU NOT GONNA GET NO FEELING. HE NOT GONNA GET NOTHING. HE DONT HAVE NO FEELING, IT WASN'T NO DAY OR NIGHT. (???) WE HAD ONE MAN MISSING (???) LIKE HE GOT SICK AND COULDN'T PLAY NO MORE. WE DIDNT HAVE... BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE STEP IN AND DO IT FOR HIM. (???) CAME IN. WE ALWAYS HAD IT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW. |
01:33:36 2016 |
JOE:
DO YOU THINK THE COVER VERSIONS, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RICKY NELSON WORK, RECORD? |
01:33:42 2022 |
DAVE:
I THINK IT WAS A GREAT THING FOR RICKY NELSON BECAUSE (???) WAS DOING THE ARRANGEMENT. HE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE. RICK ALSO WORKED IN THE STUDIO. HE WAS DOING C AND W IN LOS ANGELES. I CAN'T RECALL HIS NAME RIGHT NOW BUT HE WAS DOING RICK IN THERE. TAKE OUR RECORDS AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. I WAS GLAD TO HAVE HIM BECAUSE FATS DOMINO RECORDS CEASE TO SELL AND RICK AND THEM PICKED IT UP. OUR SAME CATALOGS THAT WERE MOVING YOU SEE. |
01:34:12 2052 |
JOE:
IT WAS A DIFFERENT APPROACH. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF IT? |
01:34:14 2054 |
DAVE:
I THOUGHT IT WAS (???). A WHITE MAN CAN'T BE BLACK. HE'S WHITE. (???) HE WAS VERY NICE. THE FACT THAT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS TOO BECAUSE HE HAD THE KID PROGRAM EVERY WEEK TOO. YOU GOTTA THINK ABOUT TV, AND THE APPROACH (???). SO WHEN ONE LET US DOWN, ANOTHER PICKED IT UP AND DID MOST OF OUR CATALOG. SO THAT WAS GOOD. I WORKED IN HOLLYWOOD. HERB: AND WE DID A CONCERT TOGETHER. DAVE: IN SACRAMENTO. I CAN REMEMBER THAT. AND ALSO IN LOS ANGELES AND ALSO IN LAS VEGAS. ITS FUNNY HOW I CAN REMEMBER ALL THAT. |
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